Inevitable Extinction

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Inevitable Extinction

How can unfeeling particles give rise to feeling organisms, like us; like
other animals - with perception - with emotions - and sentience? I can't
help but feel, as I have for as long as I can remember thinking about
these things, that life is the most cruel joke - to have to endure the
pain which accompanies it - and happiness when we think we have it - is
momentary, so ephemeral and most often eludes us. We spend lifetimes
trying to define and find it. Then we die.

Major extinctions have wiped out whole species to where what is left is a
small fraction of the fitest until the next unheaval, whether it is
climatic or an impact or we kill ourselves.

Why are we here? Dorion Sagan tells us in one of his terrific books (they
are all excellent)  Notes From the Holocene, the the most searched for
questions in the Chinese search engine Baidu is "Why are we alive?" I
learned from Dorion's work (he is the son of Carl Sagan) more about
thermodynamics than I was ever taught in school (he wrote an entire book
on the subject) - and from my understanding of thermodynamics I know our
constituent parts recycle themselves but it appears what is lost is the
essense of life, our consciousness (although some day we may have the
technology to upload it into a computer - unless that is what we already
are, computers or a modeling program on some extraterrestrial or alien
computing system.

Dorion writes: "The very substance of our bodies comes from and will
return to the biosphere when we die."

We will disappear; maybe when they turn on the Large Hadron Collider - (or
maybe not?) - but major extinction events are common.

>From Origins.org: "The classical "Big Five" mass extinctions identified by
Raup and Sepkoski (1982) are widely agreed upon as some of the most
significant: End Ordovician, Late Devonian, End Permian, End Triassic, and
End Cretaceous."

And now, we are in the Holocene extinction period. Climate is changing. We
will likely not adapt nor be able to alter it in time to have it remain
suitable for life as we know it.

    These and a selection of other extinction events are outlined below:

(Origins Quote)

1. 488 million years ago a series of mass extinctions at
    the Cambrian-Ordovician transition (the Cambrian-Ordovician extinction
    events) eliminated many brachiopods and conodonts and severely reduced
    the number of trilobite species.

2. 444 million years ago at the Ordovician-Silurian transition two
    Ordovician-Silurian extinction events occurred, and togther these are
    ranked by many scientists as the second largest of the five major
    extinctions in Earth's history in terms of percentage of genera that
    went extinct.

3. 360 million years ago near the Devonian-Carboniferous transition
    (the Late Devonian extinction) a prolonged series of extinctions led
    to the elimination of about 70% of all species. This was not a sudden
    event the period of decline lasted perhaps as long as 20 million
    years, and there is evidence for a series of extinction pulses within
    this period.

4. 251 million years ago at the Permian-Triassic transition Earth's
    worst mass extinction (the P/Tr or Permian-Triassic extinction event)
    killed 53% of marine families, 84% of marine genera, about 96% of all
    marine species and an estimated 70% of land species (including plants,
    insects, and vertebrate animals). The "Great Dying" had enormous
    evolutionary significance: on land it ended the dominance of the
    mammal-like reptiles and created the opportunity for archosaurs and
    then dinosaurs to become the dominant land vertebrates; in the seas
    the percentage of animals that were sessile dropped from 67% to 50%.
    The whole of the late Permian was a difficult time for at least marine
    life - even before the "Great Dying", the diagram shows a late-Permian
    level of extinction large enough to qualify for inclusion in the "Big
    Five".

5. 200 million years ago at the Triassic-Jurassic transition (the
    Triassic-Jurassic extinction event) about 20% of all marine families
    as well as most non-dinosaurian archosaurs, most therapsids, and the
    last of the large amphibians were eliminated.
    6. 65 million years ago at the Cretaceous-Paleogene transition (the
    K/T or Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event) about 50% of all species
    became extinct. It has great significance for humans because it ended
    the reign of the dinosaurs and opened the way for mammals to become
    the dominant land vertebrates; and in the seas it reduced the
    percentage of sessile animals again, to about 33%. The K/T extinction
    was rather uneven some groups of organisms became extinct, some
    suffered heavy losses and some appear to have got off relatively
    lightly.

7. Present day the Holocene extinction event. A 1998 survey by the
    American Museum of Natural History found that 70% of biologists view
    the present era as part of a mass extinction event, possibly one of
    the fastest ever. Some, such as E. O. Wilson of Harvard University,
    predict that man's destruction of the biosphere could cause the
    extinction of one-half of all species in the next 100 years. Research
    and conservation efforts, such as the IUCN's annual "Red List" of
    threatened species, all point to an ongoing period of enhanced
    extinction, though some offer much lower rates and hence longer time
    scales before the onset of catastrophic damage. The extinction of many
    megafauna near the end of the most recent ice age is also sometimes
    considered a part of the Holocene extinction event.


(END Quote)

Our Solar System is middle aged - and there remains about another 5
billion years of life left in our Earth unless an impact smashes it to
pieces or a super collider does it first.

Dorion Sagan: "That Earth is a giant living being, perhaps a
superior-organism as far beyond us as we are beyond our constitutent
cells."

HR

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                  <p>Inevitable Extinction<br>
<br>
How can unfeeling particles give rise to feeling organisms, like us; like<br>
other animals - with perception - with emotions - and sentience? I can't<br>
help but feel, as I have for as long as I can remember thinking about<br>
these things, that life is the most cruel joke - to have to endure the<br>
pain which accompanies it - and happiness when we think we have it - is<br>
momentary, so ephemeral and most often eludes us. We spend lifetimes<br>
trying to define and find it. Then we die.<br>
<br>
Major extinctions have wiped out whole species to where what is left is a<br>
small fraction of the fitest until the next unheaval, whether it is<br>
climatic or an impact or we kill ourselves.<br>
<br>
Why are we here? Dorion Sagan tells us in one of his terrific books (they<br>
are all excellent)  Notes From the Holocene, the the most searched for<br>
questions in the Chinese search engine Baidu is &quot;Why are we alive?&quot; I<br>
learned from Dorion's work (he is the son of Carl Sagan) more about<br>
thermodynamics than I was ever taught in school (he wrote an entire book<br>
on the subject) - and from my understanding of thermodynamics I know our<br>
constituent parts recycle themselves but it appears what is lost is the<br>
essense of life, our consciousness (although some day we may have the<br>
technology to upload it into a computer - unless that is what we already<br>
are, computers or a modeling program on some extraterrestrial or alien<br>
computing system.<br>
<br>
Dorion writes: &quot;The very substance of our bodies comes from and will<br>
return to the biosphere when we die.&quot;<br>
<br>
We will disappear; maybe when they turn on the Large Hadron Collider - (or<br>
maybe not?) - but major extinction events are common.<br>
<br>
&gt;From Origins.org: &quot;The classical &quot;Big Five&quot; mass extinctions identified by<br>
Raup and Sepkoski (1982) are widely agreed upon as some of the most<br>
significant: End Ordovician, Late Devonian, End Permian, End Triassic, and<br>
End Cretaceous.&quot;<br>
<br>
And now, we are in the Holocene extinction period. Climate is changing. We<br>
will likely not adapt nor be able to alter it in time to have it remain<br>
suitable for life as we know it.<br>
<br>
These and a selection of other extinction events are outlined below:<br>
<br>
(Origins Quote)<br>
<br>
1. 488 million years ago a series of mass extinctions at<br>
    the Cambrian-Ordovician transition (the Cambrian-Ordovician extinction<br>
    events) eliminated many brachiopods and conodonts and severely reduced<br>
    the number of trilobite species.<br>
<br>
2. 444 million years ago at the Ordovician-Silurian transition two<br>
    Ordovician-Silurian extinction events occurred, and togther these are<br>
    ranked by many scientists as the second largest of the five major<br>
    extinctions in Earth's history in terms of percentage of genera that<br>
    went extinct.<br>
<br>
3. 360 million years ago near the Devonian-Carbonifer<wbr>ous transition<br>
    (the Late Devonian extinction) a prolonged series of extinctions led<br>
    to the elimination of about 70% of all species. This was not a sudden<br>
    event the period of decline lasted perhaps as long as 20 million<br>
    years, and there is evidence for a series of extinction pulses within<br>
    this period.<br>
<br>
4. 251 million years ago at the Permian-Triassic transition Earth's<br>
    worst mass extinction (the P/Tr or Permian-Triassic extinction event)<br>
    killed 53% of marine families, 84% of marine genera, about 96% of all<br>
    marine species and an estimated 70% of land species (including plants,<br>
    insects, and vertebrate animals). The &quot;Great Dying&quot; had enormous<br>
    evolutionary significance: on land it ended the dominance of the<br>
    mammal-like reptiles and created the opportunity for archosaurs and<br>
    then dinosaurs to become the dominant land vertebrates; in the seas<br>
    the percentage of animals that were sessile dropped from 67% to 50%.<br>
    The whole of the late Permian was a difficult time for at least marine<br>
    life - even before the &quot;Great Dying&quot;, the diagram shows a late-Permian<br>
    level of extinction large enough to qualify for inclusion in the &quot;Big<br>
    Five&quot;.<br>
<br>
5. 200 million years ago at the Triassic-Jurassic transition (the<br>
    Triassic-Jurassic extinction event) about 20% of all marine families<br>
    as well as most non-dinosaurian archosaurs, most therapsids, and the<br>
    last of the large amphibians were eliminated.<br>
    6. 65 million years ago at the Cretaceous-Paleogen<wbr>e transition (the<br>
    K/T or Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event) about 50% of all species<br>
    became extinct. It has great significance for humans because it ended<br>
    the reign of the dinosaurs and opened the way for mammals to become<br>
    the dominant land vertebrates; and in the seas it reduced the<br>
    percentage of sessile animals again, to about 33%. The K/T extinction<br>
    was rather uneven some groups of organisms became extinct, some<br>
    suffered heavy losses and some appear to have got off relatively<br>
    lightly.<br>
<br>
7. Present day the Holocene extinction event. A 1998 survey by the<br>
    American Museum of Natural History found that 70% of biologists view<br>
    the present era as part of a mass extinction event, possibly one of<br>
    the fastest ever. Some, such as E. O. Wilson of Harvard University,<br>
    predict that man's destruction of the biosphere could cause the<br>
    extinction of one-half of all species in the next 100 years. Research<br>
    and conservation efforts, such as the IUCN's annual &quot;Red List&quot; of<br>
    threatened species, all point to an ongoing period of enhanced<br>
    extinction, though some offer much lower rates and hence longer time<br>
    scales before the onset of catastrophic damage. The extinction of many<br>
    megafauna near the end of the most recent ice age is also sometimes<br>
    considered a part of the Holocene extinction event.<br>
<br>
(END Quote)<br>
<br>
Our Solar System is middle aged - and there remains about another 5<br>
billion years of life left in our Earth unless an impact smashes it to<br>
pieces or a super collider does it first.<br>
<br>
Dorion Sagan: &quot;That Earth is a giant living being, perhaps a<br>
superior-organism as far beyond us as we are beyond our constitutent<br>
cells.&quot;<br>
<br>
HR<br>
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		padding: 8px 0;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{
		font-family: Arial;
		font-weight: bold;
		color: #628c2a;
		font-size: 100%;
		line-height: 122%;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
		text-decoration: none;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{
		text-decoration: underline;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad p{
		margin: 0;
		font-weight: normal;
		color: #000000;
	}
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	.MsoNormal{
	   margin: 0 0 0 0;
	}
	#ygrp-text tt{
	  font-size: 120%;
	}
	blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}
	.replbq{margin:4}

dd.last p span {
  margin-right: 10px;
  font-family: Verdana;
  font-weight: bold;
}

dd.last p span.yshortcuts {
  margin-right: 0;
}

div.photo-title a,
div.photo-title a:active,
div.photo-title a:hover,
div.photo-title a:visited {
    text-decoration: none;
}

div.file-title a,
div.file-title a:active,
div.file-title a:hover,
div.file-title a:visited {
    text-decoration: none;
}

#ygrp-msg p#attach-count {
    clear: both;
    padding: 15px 0 3px 0;
    overflow: hidden;
}

#ygrp-msg p#attach-count span {
    color: #1E66AE;
    font-weight: bold;
}

div#ygrp-mlmsg #ygrp-msg p a span.yshortcuts {
    font-family: Verdana;
    font-size: 10px;
    font-weight: normal;
}

#ygrp-msg p a {
    font-family: Verdana;
}

#ygrp-mlmsg a {
    color: #1E66AE;
}

div.attach-table div div a {
    text-decoration: none;
}

div.attach-table {
    width: 400px;
}

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