Re: Rights v Responsibilities

My experience suggests that it is often difficult to explain anything to
anyone who doesn't want to listen

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Rod Skeggs <touringindochina-/[email protected]>wrote:

> >I hope you mean engage in the mutually respectful
> exchange of ideas through polite conversation.  %^) <
>
> Of course,also having been a martial arts instructor for around 27 years I
> do understand that violence is never a solution so yes Jon, I simply want to
> explain the error of their ways and hopefully they will understand that I
> have rights as a cyclist, just as I have rights as a motorist and a citizen.
>
> I am usually in a good place when out on my bike and I most certainly do
> not wish to disrupt my harmony by having to cause physical harm to another,
> no matter how inconsiderate they have been. It is usually sypathy I feel for
> the those poor unfortunates who haven't reached a level of understanding
> which encompasses even the simplest of social regulations, like road rules
> and common courtious use of community property as you quite correctly
> stated:
>
> >There's also civility and cooperation that go along with
> rights and responsibilities...<
>
> Now back in the day.......It might have been a different story....but with
> age comes patience and humility.
>
> Rod.
>
>
> --- On Tue, 8/2/11, Jon Meinecke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jon Meinecke <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Rights v Responsibilities
> To: "Rod Skeggs" <touringindochina-/[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, 8 February, 2011, 10:20 PM
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Rod Skeggs <touringindochina-/[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Of course, no matter where you go you will always get
> > self centered imbeciles who believe their rights exceed
> > your rights
>
> Yes.
>
> There's also civility and cooperation that go along with
> rights and responsibilities...
>
> On roads, I'm generally slower than other traffic.  I
> generally try to let faster traffic pass without delaying
> them unnecessarily while not encouraging unsafe
> passing.  I try to ignore any verbal abuse.
>
> On multiuse paths, I'm faster than many other
> users.  I don't zip by, passing too close, or
> yell...  I slow down, say hello, and wait until
> it is safe to pass.
>
> > "stop the vehicle and get out so we can discuss it like
> > men!  Sadly, those types rarely stop?
>
> I hope you mean engage in the mutually respectful
> exchange of ideas through polite conversation.  %^)
>
> My roadside efforts in this respect have not met with
> much success.  Entertaining, yes.  Successful in
> changing contentious driver behavior, not so much.
>
> A friend and I did were waiting in line at a stop light.
> Stopped side by side behind two or three cars.  The
> driver of the vehicle in front of us steps out of his car
> to 'let us know' that we should not be riding in the
> road.
>
> I said, "I'm sorry, but you are mistaken, cyclists are
> allow to ride in the road..."  He replied that his police
> officer friend had told so and that we needed to "get
> out of the road'.  I suggested his friend might need to
> review Texas transportation code regarding bicycles*.
> He said, no, we were wrong, he was right.  We
> offered to call police and wait for them to arrive, but
> he declined to wait.  %^)
>
> * we were within 'code'
> - The lane was less than 14 feet wide.
> - We were no more than two abreast.
>
> and (under non-bicycle-specific part of the code)
>
> - We were not impeding traffic.  (we were waiting for
> the traffic light to change)
>
> Jon
>
>
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