Re: Urban Crossings

"j.a. tackett" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.recreation.bicycle.touring.phred
Message-ID <[email protected]>
very true...well spoken

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:58 PM, ernest breakfield <
[email protected]> wrote:

> hi Jon!
>
>    i wouldn't be likely to go out of my wayin advanceto avoid a route while
> i'm touring; though i wouldn't hesitate to find a map and look for
> alternates if i get to someplace and it turns out to be uglier than i wanted
> to deal with.
>    i'm sure i have a higher tolerance to traffic than some people and less
> than others, but i've had enough issues with bad advance information and
> changed route conditions that i don't necessarily rely heavily on what i get
> in advance and just expect to do some 'winging it' along the way. that's
> part of the Adventure!    ;-)
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
>
> On 11/Feb/11 05:05, Jon Meinecke wrote:
>
>> As a counterpoint to the bike paths/lanes/tracks are safer-
>> or-not threads, perhaps there is some interesting and useful
>> group experience with "urban crossings".
>>
>> How do people deal with crossing through medium to to
>> large to very large urban areas on long distance tours?
>>
>> Avoid them?
>> Skirt them?
>> Just follow the main route?
>> Avoid the main route?
>> Call a cab?
>>
>> I read a trip journal of a cross-country cyclist who rode
>> through my not large, but not small city.  He commented
>> on the traffic patterns and the comfort-level of the route
>> he took in not entirely complementary terms.
>>
>> His route was basically the main drag and most direct
>> route through town.  Though not unsafe,  it was not a
>> route that many local cyclists would recommend.  And
>> alternatives, not as direct, but lower traffic could be
>> been derived from simple city street maps.  Even better,
>> more scenic and bike friendly routes could have been
>> used, but only with local cyclist input...
>>
>> Even smaller cities can pose similar obstacles to
>> crossing.  The main drag coming into Lawton, OK
>> from the east loses it's shoulder and gains curbs and
>> heavy city traffic.  I rode well 'out of my way' just to
>> get off that street as soon as I could.
>>
>> Major cities can pose even larger challenges.
>>
>> What is other people's experience?  Do you plan
>> urban routes, or just wing it?
>>
>> Jon
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