RE: Penalty for killing bicyclist inadequate

so "just" because she or family member worked hard to afford these things like private school for her kids and and Union american made car- she's a villian..That's just dumb!
 Bicyclist create a atmosphere of hate as much as any one if not more.
 I was a bicycle commuter since university out  of need- then out of enjoyment only to have it Hijacked by such whack jobs groups as Critical Mass and the "I never take a bath or wash my cloths" groups( a hard uniform if there ever was)
  Guess from your tone, she woke up that morning with this "all" planed out to get the Peace loving cyclist-because no driver has ever seen a cyclist run a red light or cross in front of a car without signaling..

Allan D. Desmond
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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:28:13 -0600
> Subject: Re: Penalty for killing bicyclist inadequate
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]
> 
> this is true what you said...
> but the political climate seems to be favoring her ....
> and not the victim...
> never the victim...
> we have to worry about the abuse the individual who created the
> situation....
> how awfully her life has been...
> she can barely afford her cadillac suv....
> and getting all her teeth last week cap was such a financial strain on her
> family...
> and the private school her child goes to...
> and those issues her child has to go through...
> if mommy goes to jail....
> oh the shame....
> that damn bicyclist having to be on the road ...
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Bob Carlson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > I think it would be fine if she went to jail for a while. She hit a cyclist
> > from
> > behind. That is negligence by definition. If I were the family of the
> > victim, I
> > would also sue because that is the only punishment she will receive.
> >
> > It seems fairly obvious that if you don't punish negligence you will get
> > more of
> > it and more dead cyclists and pedestrians.
> >
> > Cheers, Bob
> > Eugene, OR - Tucson, AZ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: touring-bounces+bob=rjcarlson.com-Wizm5X4GRk5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org
> > [mailto:touring-bounces+bob=rjcarlson.com-Wizm5X4GRk5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Colin
> > Brander
> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:01 AM
> > To: Miles Whelen
> > Cc: touring
> > Subject: Re: Penalty for killing bicyclist inadequate
> >
> > I have to agree. This was a huge mistake on her part, but I don't think she
> > should go to jail. However, these situations need to be treated a lot more
> > seriously. She took her eyes off the road and that is negligence. If laws
> > are improved, penalties increased and law enforcement uses the laws
> > properly, it is going to send a strong message to the public that while
> > operating a vehicle you are responsible for operating it safely and that if
> > you don't, there will be a price to pay. Over time, it will make the roads
> > a
> > lot safer for all of us.
> >
> >
> > Colin
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Miles Whelen <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Dennis,
> > >
> > > I see your point. Many people seem to have no remorse as bystanders in a
> > > like they deserved it. Never heard someone that ran someone down not
> > sound
> > > remorseful.
> > >
> > > It does however seem to me that not controlling your vehical and killing
> > > someone is Gross Negligence. The death or course is proof positive that
> > she
> > > did not allow a three foot clearance.
> > >
> > > Crucifying no; consequences yes. It should serve society and be a
> > lesson.
> > > Society should decide but I thing it was not served.
> > >
> > >
> > > We had a young fellow (17 yo ) that killed a father and husband on a wide
> > > road 4 lane divided, a long line of site with wide shoulder with no
> > traffic.
> > > He said he was fumbling for a cassette tape (on the floor?) when he
> > crossed
> > > the from the left to right lane onto the shoulder and struck and killed
> > the
> > > man.
> > > Must have been some cassette. Cyclists that ride there just assumed it
> > was
> > > a deliberate act to "scare" the cyclist.
> > >
> > > He lost his drivers license for a limited time, that was about it. The
> > > survivors sued him for damages (teen was not emancipated) and the
> > teenagers
> > > family had to sell their home to help satisfy the judgement. There were
> > two
> > > young children to provide for.
> > >
> > >
> > > It sounds like this woman still has a license but is likely more careful.
> > >
> > > Many auto drivers would fear losing their license for a year more than a
> > > week in jail.
> > >
> > >
> > > Perhaps a minimum sentencing standard is in order, like auto suspension
> > of
> > > driving privileges. It is not a right after all, auto driving is a
> > > privilege. Police officers are-benched after shooting incidents on
> > similar
> > > grounds. I think society would be well served; particularly in dangerous
> > > Florida where it is such a utopia that homelessness is illegal and
> > > recreational cycling can carry the death penalty.
> > >
> > > It would be a start,
> > >
> > > Gilbert Anderson
> > > Yanceyville Upon Dan
> > >
> > > <<
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 07:14:00 -0500
> > > From: Dennis Rehak <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: Penalty for killing bicyclist inadequate
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > People have accidents, it happens to us all. Without some showing of
> > gross
> > > negligence do we really want to crucify this obviously remorseful woman?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone. DJ Rehak>>
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