RE: Icom R2 & Airport Security

"Marty Toomajian" <martyt-tUwO18uD7CBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.recreation.radio.hardware.icomr2
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I have asked whether radio receivers (of any kind) can be used on
flights and the answer for the past 10 years or so is no.  The reasoning
is that the oscillator(s) in the radios could potentially interfere with
the navigation systems used in the planes.  The modern systems are
electronic (rather than mechanical).

I would be interested in a reference to any US airline allowing radio
receivers to be used in flight.  I have never seen any notation
concerning use when the seat belt sign is not lit.

I personally disagree with the ban on listening.  It is a lot of fun to
listen to FM while up in the air.  I used to do it in the years before
the stricter rules took effect.  I think there is just as much or more
chance that there will be interference from a laptop computer as a radio
receiver.

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Arundel [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:45 PM
To: INTERNET:[email protected]
Subject: Re:[icomr2] Icom R2 & Airport Security


Hi Ralph,

I have brought my R2 on all my flights and have never had any problems.
In certain countries they ask to have a look but I just say it's a radio
and have a few local radio freqs tuned in and they're happy.  It's just
the airports that have police or military in charge of airport security
where you have to be careful, especially if scanners are banned in that
country (such as Italy).

As for listening in flight, the official line is that you cannot use a
radio when the seatbelt sign is lit (ie takeoff and landing) but when it
is off you can, although it's best to be discreet as some cabin crew and
other passengers get worried when they hear you're listening to the
flight deck & ATC.  I normally tune in the current freq, put the R2 up
my sleeve with the speaker resting in the palm of my hand and give the
appearance of resting my head on my hand!  When the freq changes, I
discreetly change the freq and 
continue listening.  Be advised that due to shielding in the plane, you
can hear ATC while on the ground and just after departure but then as
you climb it depends on where the ATC transmitter is as to whether you
will hear any comms from the ground.  You can of course hear the pilot
very clearly.

Hope this helps,
Neil


>Here's a question for some of you frequent flyers.  Am I likely to
>have any problems carrying my R2 through airport security inspections 
>and also listening to it while in flight?

>Any advice will be appreciated.

>Ralph




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