Re: Re: How can I manually program IDs into a Scan List without signal?

The BC245 was built on the BC220 platform (which was really just an 
extension of the BC120).  I have had all three of these (the BC120 got 
stolen).

What they did was to keep the normal programming of the 245 pretty much the 
same as the 220, including the 10 banks of 30 (or 20 for the 220) channels. 
They simply "tacked" the trunking programming on top of this - without the 
luxury of a menu system, or dedicated trunking keys.

I always had the feeling that the 245 was a bit of a rush job, to get a 
trunking scanner into production without needing any hardware development 
(or minimal anyway) - doing it all in firmware.  The end result was a nice 
robust scanner, but with a very ordinary UI.

To their credit, Uniden realised this, and added PC connectivity (which the 
220 hadn't had).

The later scanners, of course, were built with menu systems, and presumably 
with trunking systems in mind from the start.

Regards, Dave S

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jrmacgreg" <rmacgregor-21a9/[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:04 PM
Subject: [BC245XLT] Re: How can I manually program IDs into a Scan List 
without signal?


>I was suprised to find that it had to receive a control channel signal.
> I own a BCD396t, a bc780 and a pro-92 and have never had this issue.
> Thanks again.
>
> --- In [email protected], "David Smart" <smartware.consulting@...> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Glad you got it working.
>>
>> >I had to temporarly substitute the whole bank of the real control 
>> >channel
>> > with the bank of a closer one and it worked fine. For some reason the
>> > lockout did not work.
>>
>> Not sure what happened.  It's not the lockout that's important, it's the
>> inclusion of a local control channel.  I have done this for years without
>> trouble.  In fact I automatically include a local control channel in any
>> non-local trunking bank from the start and simply enable/lock it as 
>> needed.
>>
>> > I wonder why the BC245 never allowed the entry of IDs on a weak
>> > or none existing control channel?
>>
>> The way they designed it, the scanner needs to be in trunking mode to 
>> enter
>> talkgroups.  Being in trunking mode requires a signal.
>>
>> The 396 doesn't have this limitation.
>>
>>
>> Regards, Dave S
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "jrmacgreg" <rmacgregor@...>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 11:22 AM
>> Subject: [BC245XLT] Re: How can I manually program IDs into a Scan List
>> without signal?
>>
>>
>> >I had to temporarly substitute the whole bank of the real control 
>> >channel
>> >with the bank of a closer one and it worked fine. For some reason the
>> >lockout did not work.
>> > I wonder why the BC245 never allowed the entry of IDs on a weak or none
>> > existing control channel?
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > --- In [email protected], "David Smart" <smartware.consulting@>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Put a nearby (i.e. strong) control tower into the frequency list for 
>> >> the
>> >> trunking system you're trying to program.  Lock out the real control
>> >> channel
>> >> for that system.  This will get it into trunking mode and you can 
>> >> enter
>> >> your
>> >> TGs.  Once you're finished entering them, lock out the nearby control
>> >> tower
>> >> and unlock the real one and you should be ready to go.
>> >>
>> >> Regards, Dave S
>> >>
>> >> PS re your actual question "How can I manually program IDs into a Scan
>> >> List
>> >> without signal?" - you can't.  On the scanner, that is.  You can, on a
>> >> PC.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "jrmacgreg" <rmacgregor@>
>> >> To: <[email protected]>
>> >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 8:47 AM
>> >> Subject: [BC245XLT] How can I manually program IDs into a Scan List
>> >> without
>> >> signal?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >I just bought a used BC245 and I am not sure if this in normal.
>> >> > I do not have a program cable so I have t0 program it through the
>> >> > keyboard.I am programmed for a motorola type 2.
>> >> > I can not manually program IDs into a bank unless I have a usable
>> >> > signal
>> >> > on the control channel. It will not go into the ID entry mode when I
>> >> > press
>> >> > the MAN key. Only when I am on a bank that has a strong enough 
>> >> > signal
>> >> > will
>> >> > it allow me in. Whats annoying is that when I am on a weak control
>> >> > channel
>> >> > it will allow me in to program IDs but when it looses the signal it
>> >> > knocks
>> >> > me back out.
>> >> > How can I progam the radio for a network that I am not presently on. 
>> >> > An
>> >> > example is that I am programming it for I location I will be going 
>> >> > to
>> >> > be
>> >> > on a later date.
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> >
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