Fw: Re: Longevity (Was Commercial human ventures planned for the moon: NASA)

This is a post of mine on another group.  John W.



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>Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013 6:38 AM
>Subject: Re: [pahROMP] Longevity (Was Commercial human ventures planned for the moon: NASA)
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>What is the link for downloading that free Kindle (..mobi) e-book, "Intelligent Intervention" by Robert Steven Thomas, please?
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>Not counting accidents, homicides, malnutrition, and fatal diseases not necessarily connected with ageing, there are two principal factors that limit the longevity of humans, and at least other warm-blooded animals (mammals and birds). One (the more well-known) is free-radicals, generated by ionizing radiation or by chemical means such as decomposition of peroxides, reacting with and causing mutations and cross-linking of strands of DNA, thereby preventing them from replicating by way of cell-division. This results in progressive loss of tissues as cells die, generally having a lifespan less than 7 years, and are not all replaced. It can be combatted by use of anti-oxidants and adequate general nutrition.
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>One particularly powerful such anti-oxidant is resveratrol, found in red wine, see
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resveratrol , also known as trans-3,5,4'-Trihydroxystilbene,
>3,4',5-Stilbenetriol, trans-Resveratrol, or (E)-5-(p-Hydroxystyryl)resorcinol, or (E)-5-(4-hydroxystyryl)benzene-1,3-diol. It acts as an anti-oxidant, being also anti-inflammatory, 
preventing DNA mutations and DNA strands becoming linked together by 
reaction with free radicals.. Use of other antioxidants along with it, 
especially selenium (other principal ones are vitamins A, C, and E), 
would very probably have a synergistic effect. 
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>The other, and more severe in the long run, main cause of progressive permanent loss of cells by being unable to replenish themselves by division, and hence limitation of longevity, is due to the progressive shortening with each cell-division of the telomeres (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telomere ), which are special lengths of polypeptides at the ends of each DNA strand, serving to protect the latter. These suffer shortening at each cell division, causing cell division to be slower and slower, until, after about 50 divisions, they are completely gone and cells can no longer divide; - the "Hayflick Limit", http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayflick_limit . With the life of each cell being usually less than 7 years, this would put a "cap" on lifespan of about 350 years, even with the maximum possible effect of anti-oxidants. 
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>That is, UNLESS the telomeres are regenerated by the action of the enzyme telomerase, see 
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>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telomerase  . However, this enzyme naturally occurs only in cancerous cells (which are effectively immortal until their host dies, reproducing faster than 
normal cells), and reproductive cells (which are haploid, unlike all 
others which are diploid). It is "normally" absent in ordinary cells, 
but theoretically its production could somehow be "switched on" in them, resulting in cell immortality. Research is being done into how to do 
this and so prevent ageing, BUT without increasing the danger of cancer, e.g. by the Geron Corporation; see http://www.geron.com ,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geron_Corporation .
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>See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_damage_theory_of_aging , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_life_span , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rejuvenation_(aging) , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senescence ,
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immortality , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centromere .
>One therefore wonders if the up to 1,000-year life-spans mentioned in the Book Of Genesis in the Bible, and also in Atlantis mentioned by Edgar Cayce (although the Atlanteans also had an artificial means of rejuvenation which must have replenished the lengths of the telomeres of DNA strands), were due to the gene for production of telomerase in all types of cells being somehow "switched on", not just in cancerous and reproductive cells. In Genesis times the specific effects of anti-oxidants would have been unknown.. But sometime around the time of the Great Flood in about 2,800 BC, this genetic switch for telomerase secretion became turned off in just a few generations, at least in the Caucasoid root-race. Could the fabulous "Annunaki", and not some anthropogenic cause, have been responsible for this?
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>A major problem with living so long is that of permanent wear-and-tear and injuries to the bones and teeth, including arthritis and decay, even with the maximum effects of anti-oxidants and of telomerase (and any other means found to reduce shortening of the telomeres). This problem can be dealt with by means of surgery, including joint replacements and dentistry, although it is costly, and in the long run the latter would have to include finding a means of inducing the growth of new teeth.
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>Oh
 yes, I expect to live to be at least 150, and be still alive in 2100. 
But if everyone did, $ocial $ecurity in the U$A, and all other state 
pension and private superannuation schemes would become "toast".
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>John W.
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>>From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>To: [email protected] 
>>Sent: Sunday, 26 May 2013 8:34 PM
>>Subject: Re: [pahROMP] Commercial human ventures planned for the moon: NASA study
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>>I think its safe to say that humans had certain genes altered to 
>>prevent longevity and I also think higher intelligence.
>>What would have been a real plus is to switch off the genes that make 
>>humans warriors.
>>Too much killing with or with out wars.
>>Then they wouldn't have had to alter the genes for longevity and 
>>intelligence.
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>>Tony
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>>Subject: Re: [pahROMP] Commercial human ventures planned for the moon: 
>>NASA study
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>>I'm reading a very interesting book about the Annunaki and they 
>>supposedly turned off some of our genes so we wouldn't live for 
>>hundreds or even thousands of years like they did. The book is called 
>>Intelligent Intervention by Robert Steven Thomas. The author was on 
>>Coast one night and I tuned in just in time to hear him say that his 
>>book was free on Amazon for download to Kindle, so I got it and I just 
>>love it. I wish I had heard his interview.
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>>Patricia
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