Dieppe Uncovered (fwd)
Martin Postranecky <mp-/[email protected]> Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:01:24 +0100
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I don't know if anybody had watched this last night, but it repeats TODAY ( Monday ) at 1pm ( UK ) on "Yesterday"....: Dieppe Uncovered ---------------- Sunday 19th August 2012 at 21.00hrs on 'Yesterday' REPEAT : Monday 20 August 2012 at 13.00hrs on 'Yesterday' -------- In 1942, Allied forces mounted a disastrous attack on the French port of Dieppe. Now the truth behind the ill-fated raid and the role played by author Ian Fleming is revealed. On 19th August 1942 Allied forces attacked the French port of Dieppe. The disastrous mission resulted in the deaths of nearly 1,000 men and 2,000 men taken prisoner. For 70 years many have asked what happened and why the mission was such a failure. To mark the 70th anniversary of the event, Yesterday is finally able to reveal the truth behind one of the biggest secrets of World War II. Dieppe Uncovered brings back to life the raid thanks to dramatic reconstructions and talks to those who really know the truth. Fifteen years ago Professor David O'Keefe, an expert on ULTRA - the highly secretive and classified intelligence the Allies gathered during the war - was searching through formerly secret ULTRA files. He found out something extraordinary. The previously unknown 30th Assault Unit was behind the raids, and the man leading the group was none other than Sir Ian Fleming, the man who would later go on to become a celebrated novelist. Could the man who created James Bond been behind one of the blackest days of World War II ? http://uktv.co.uk/yesterday/item/aid/653281 MikeM12275 wrote on 20 Aug 2012 at 09:26 AM ------------------------------------------- Interesting programme, but I wonder if the objectives for the raid were quite as those suggested . Surely the reason for all the secrecy regarding the breaking of the Enigma code-and its subsequent success as far as the Allies were concerned-was that the Germans did not realise we had cracked it? And was why all Allied operations which were subsequently carried out as a result of the intelligence gleaned via Enigma had to be done in such a way as to give our enemies no hint that we had prior knowledge which could only have been learned via a compromised Enigma system. Although the Dieppe raid may have secured a four-rotor Enigma, and therefore short-circuited Beltchley's on-going attempts to solve the code for that specific machine,it would have been pointless in the long-term since the Germans would have been fully aware that we had obtained the 4-rotor model, and developed another variation which would have set back the cracking of Enigma even further ? Even if they were unsure that we had obtained the device, any destruction of the Dieppe HQ would have left them with no alternative but to assume the worst. So surely the failure of the elite squad to snatch the machine & code books was probably a better outcome in the long run . Which begs the question, with so many brains hatching this scheme, why did no-one at the time realise that a successful snatch raid would ultimately backfire in this way ? Or was there another secret which they needed to seize which was so important that the blowing of the current efforts to solve Enigma was considered a sacrifice worth making ? Or is this yet another Enigma.....? Mike Thu, Aug 9 : It turns out Ian Fleming, the man behind James Bond, helped devise the Battle of Dieppe of 1942, a raid that left 900 Canadians dead. Christina Stevens reports. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGR9qN8oxcQ Postmedia News August 19, 2012 Decoding the mystery of Dieppe ------------------------------ Deadly assault on Nazi-occupied beach was cover for a larger mission, documentary says By Doug Schmidt The horror of Canada's darkest day of the Second World War still remains a vivid picture in Howard Large's mind, 70 years after he crawled in terror over the still-warm bodies of comrades and across the bloodied stones of a machine gun-raked beach at Dieppe.../snip/ http://www.timescolonist.com/news/Decoding+mystery+Dieppe/7113047/story.html http://thechronicleherald.ca/artslife/128001-tv-doc-sheds-new-light-on-dieppe-70-years-later http://arts.nationalpost.com/2012/08/16/with-dieppe-uncovered-and-nerve-centre-its-all-in-the-human-details/