Re: [dinosaur] On several Russian papers

Ben Creisler <[email protected]>
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Ben Creisler
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Do you necessarily want the first description of a taxon, which sometimes
was a very short notice? In some cases, the same authors later published
more detailed descriptions, some of which are online from different
sources. However, I would need some time to track these down, which
involves having the exact Russian spelling and often the Russian form of
the scientific name.

Here's snippet views of the original description of Therizinosaurus (but it
doesn't show the original goofy giant turtle "life" reconstruction that was
in the Priroda article). Obviously, this was scanned by somebody...


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On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:51 AM David Marjanovic <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 03. Oktober 2019 um 16:36 Uhr
> *Von:* "Leonardo Gómez" <[email protected]>
> Did anyone see this?
>
> I did. I neither have the pdfs, nor was I optimistic about any existing,
> so I didn't react.
>
> But searching Google Scholar for "pliosaurus rossicus" (with quotation
> marks) finds the openly accessible pdf
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__undor-2Dmuz.ru_wp-2Dcontent_uploads_2019_08_Novozhilov-2D1948.pdf&d=DwMBaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=mUnKDVm2Ae1GsCLxAsrfpoJr9BIgLKUJnxpyz8cthJA&s=FACzBAVX8rOcksdnkf7GNjjfEMEFerl_cc7WhZoap48&e=>
> on the first page of results.
>
> That's all, though.
>
> *Dsungaripterus parvus* is not found.
>
> Searching for *Estemmenosuchus* and Чудинов together does not find the
> description, only a paper celebrating his 90th birthday. The same holds for
> *Eotitanosuchus* and Чудинов (a paper in English, Chudinov 1965, is
> found, but that's not it, he named *Eotitanosuchus* in 1960).
>
> Searching for *Nyctiphruretus* and Ефремов brings up two results in
> total, neither of which is the description. Likewise for *Titanophoneus*
> and Ефремов.
>
> Searching for *Therizinosaurus* and Малеев brings up interesting things,
> but nothing by Малеев.
>
> So, as expected, most of these works have either never been digitized, or
> they've only been scanned as pictures without OCR.
>
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