Re: [dinosaur] On several Russian papers
Ben Creisler <[email protected]>
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Ben Creisler bcreisler@gmail As I thought, some of these papers can be downloaded from Russian sites, although sometimes as a full journal or issue rather than as an individual article. One possible complication is that Russian websites often post documents in DjVu format rather than pdf. You will need to download a reader, which should be available for free. You click through the pages from the bar at the top. You can also convert DjVu to pdf (although I have not tried it). The Archive for the Russian journal Priroda in DjVu is posted here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__priroda.ras.ru_&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=367EWCREnY38dlqyg6c4tMC0GHKj4vhy3l2qdJ2HwJ0&s=lDFyNNcfXB6-JWTQ6UVL7LtTMk8Dr92p81pmlcju8mk&e= The issue with Maleev's original description of Therizinosaurus (Priroda 1954(3):106-108), including an illustrated reconstruction as a giant turtle-like animal(!), can be downloaded at this link. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__priroda.ras.ru_djvu_1954-2D03.djvu&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=367EWCREnY38dlqyg6c4tMC0GHKj4vhy3l2qdJ2HwJ0&s=6oLNgS0bobIw7oURswF6BDXWgjJgyXZzqpIrvcdk_b0&e= === The Geokniga website is a bit tricky to work through, but here is a link to some of the publications (in DjVu) by Efremov: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.geokniga.org_books_13923&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=367EWCREnY38dlqyg6c4tMC0GHKj4vhy3l2qdJ2HwJ0&s=A8Gwb5xR5-BS4jgs9pJSUiq4bZ1O-R-5QEVCNlzqABA&e= You need to click on the title, then go to the bottom of the individual page for the publication and click on the link. *** Chudinov's book on early therapsids from 1983 is here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.geokniga.org_books_3042&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=367EWCREnY38dlqyg6c4tMC0GHKj4vhy3l2qdJ2HwJ0&s=nK9QkUuvfaoFRUqRT5yMt1ZR9UbTgv_zuWoYqNqMKtE&e= == I may be able to get links for some of the other papers, but it can take some time to get the queries right in Russian, and, of course, some papers may not be online at the moment. <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.avg.com_email-2Dsignature-3Futm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dlink-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dsig-2Demail-26utm-5Fcontent-3Dwebmail&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=367EWCREnY38dlqyg6c4tMC0GHKj4vhy3l2qdJ2HwJ0&s=gy9HH6E4r5yj7OzAQ9HOCUiJ9jQfyGOcWkvrKhBkHp4&e= > Virus-free. www.avg.com <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.avg.com_email-2Dsignature-3Futm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dlink-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dsig-2Demail-26utm-5Fcontent-3Dwebmail&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=367EWCREnY38dlqyg6c4tMC0GHKj4vhy3l2qdJ2HwJ0&s=gy9HH6E4r5yj7OzAQ9HOCUiJ9jQfyGOcWkvrKhBkHp4&e= > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 2:04 PM Ben Creisler <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ben Creisler > [email protected] > > > Do you necessarily want the first description of a taxon, which sometimes > was a very short notice? In some cases, the same authors later published > more detailed descriptions, some of which are online from different > sources. However, I would need some time to track these down, which > involves having the exact Russian spelling and often the Russian form of > the scientific name. > > Here's snippet views of the original description of Therizinosaurus (but > it doesn't show the original goofy giant turtle "life" reconstruction that > was in the Priroda article). Obviously, this was scanned by somebody... > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__books.google.com_books-3Fid-3DH-5FY9ehL-5FaKYC-26q-3D-25D0-25A2-25D0-25B5-25D1-2580-25D0-25B8-25D0-25B7-25D0-25B8-25D0-25BD-25D0-25BE-25D0-25B7-25D0-25B0-25D0-25B2-25D1-2580-26dq-3D-25D0-25A2-25D0-25B5-25D1-2580-25D0-25B8-25D0-25B7-25D0-25B8-25D0-25BD-25D0-25BE-25D0-25B7-25D0-25B0-25D0-25B2-25D1-2580-26hl-3Den-26sa-3DX-26ved-3D2ahUKEwjZ0qWevoPlAhVEsp4KHUsvDqkQ6AEwBXoECAcQAg&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=367EWCREnY38dlqyg6c4tMC0GHKj4vhy3l2qdJ2HwJ0&s=kXXwp9wgO25ECOquQbF6iqM3oSd-_j5MC8oA9z7gP7U&e= > > > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.avg.com_email-2Dsignature-3Futm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dlink-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dsig-2Demail-26utm-5Fcontent-3Dwebmail&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=367EWCREnY38dlqyg6c4tMC0GHKj4vhy3l2qdJ2HwJ0&s=gy9HH6E4r5yj7OzAQ9HOCUiJ9jQfyGOcWkvrKhBkHp4&e= > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.avg.com_email-2Dsignature-3Futm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dlink-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dsig-2Demail-26utm-5Fcontent-3Dwebmail&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=367EWCREnY38dlqyg6c4tMC0GHKj4vhy3l2qdJ2HwJ0&s=gy9HH6E4r5yj7OzAQ9HOCUiJ9jQfyGOcWkvrKhBkHp4&e= > > <#m_-2163002440116015755_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:51 AM David Marjanovic <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 03. Oktober 2019 um 16:36 Uhr >> *Von:* "Leonardo Gómez" <[email protected]> >> Did anyone see this? >> >> I did. I neither have the pdfs, nor was I optimistic about any existing, >> so I didn't react. >> >> But searching Google Scholar for "pliosaurus rossicus" (with quotation >> marks) finds the openly accessible pdf >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__undor-2Dmuz.ru_wp-2Dcontent_uploads_2019_08_Novozhilov-2D1948.pdf&d=DwMBaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=mUnKDVm2Ae1GsCLxAsrfpoJr9BIgLKUJnxpyz8cthJA&s=FACzBAVX8rOcksdnkf7GNjjfEMEFerl_cc7WhZoap48&e=> >> on the first page of results. >> >> That's all, though. >> >> *Dsungaripterus parvus* is not found. >> >> Searching for *Estemmenosuchus* and Чудинов together does not find the >> description, only a paper celebrating his 90th birthday. The same holds for >> *Eotitanosuchus* and Чудинов (a paper in English, Chudinov 1965, is >> found, but that's not it, he named *Eotitanosuchus* in 1960). >> >> Searching for *Nyctiphruretus* and Ефремов brings up two results in >> total, neither of which is the description. Likewise for *Titanophoneus* >> and Ефремов. >> >> Searching for *Therizinosaurus* and Малеев brings up interesting things, >> but nothing by Малеев. >> >> So, as expected, most of these works have either never been digitized, or >> they've only been scanned as pictures without OCR. >> >