Re: [dinosaur] Mammal recovery after K-Pg extinction happened fast + NOVA Rise of the Mammals
Ruben Safir <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | gmane.science.dinosaurs.general |
|---|---|
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 07:44:02AM -0400, Thomas Richard Holtz wrote: > Ruben Safir (mrbrklyn.com) asks > > > Loxolophus sp. - how do they know that this animal is related to hoofed > > mammals based on just the skull? > > Because common names don't reflect actual science... > > "Hoofed mammals" are not characterized solely by the existence of hooves. > It is a vernacular shorthand for "ungulate" (or even more, "euungulate"). > As with any taxon, they are characterized by traits from across the body, > not solely from one portion that gives them their names. So tooth > characters, braincase features, attributes of the bones associated with the > ear, etc., can all be used to tell which major group of mammals a fossil is > most likely related to. OK - so how do they know that this animal, based on that skull, is related to hoofed mammals. > > P.S. Did you actually watch the documentary? Or read the paper? > > The documentary is streaming on Amazon, and is available (at least to those > in the US) at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.pbs.org_video_rise-2Dof-2Dthe-2Dmammals-2Dzuzg8t_&d=DwIBAg&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=JMxjjbIZXCWilersPs1bzRx-3mUwTiQUzlyzWk7v7k4&m=P4JQDygm3X1hfvZy-J2n_FmKFjzhlXgzzUniSd_A1Ko&s=EaieY87CjSV2_43x4uFGcrk_msG1kwx7xxrR0ya6I0w&e= > > The paper is available at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__science.sciencemag.org_content_early_2019_10_23_science.aay2268.abstract&d=DwIBAg&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=JMxjjbIZXCWilersPs1bzRx-3mUwTiQUzlyzWk7v7k4&m=P4JQDygm3X1hfvZy-J2n_FmKFjzhlXgzzUniSd_A1Ko&s=QNAnudgc8-aLuD7UQqCbRERW604m5B94HRixREJkZiQ&e= > > that is why I asked > > > > -- > > Thomas R. Holtz, Jr. > Email: [email protected] Phone: 301-405-4084 > Principal Lecturer, Vertebrate Paleontology > > Office: Geology 4106, 8000 Regents Dr., College Park MD 20742 > > Dept. of Geology, University of Maryland > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.geol.umd.edu_-7Etholtz_&d=DwIBAg&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=JMxjjbIZXCWilersPs1bzRx-3mUwTiQUzlyzWk7v7k4&m=P4JQDygm3X1hfvZy-J2n_FmKFjzhlXgzzUniSd_A1Ko&s=NsYN07FWnaNYFB50zcJN29-_V89KsVV9F72E5lGU2MY&e= > > Phone: 301-405-6965 > Fax: 301-314-9661 > > Faculty Director, Science & Global Change Program, College Park Scholars > > Office: Centreville 1216, 4243 Valley Dr., College Park MD 20742 > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.geol.umd.edu_sgc&d=DwIBAg&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=JMxjjbIZXCWilersPs1bzRx-3mUwTiQUzlyzWk7v7k4&m=P4JQDygm3X1hfvZy-J2n_FmKFjzhlXgzzUniSd_A1Ko&s=qv0AzK8iB3x6K9dBmnaRQV3I75uWePtxwCNGglQsdnI&e= > Fax: 301-314-9843 > > Mailing Address: Thomas R. Holtz, Jr. > Department of Geology > Building 237, Room 1117 > > 8000 Regents Drive > University of Maryland > College Park, MD 20742-4211 USA -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mrbrklyn.com&d=DwIBAg&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=JMxjjbIZXCWilersPs1bzRx-3mUwTiQUzlyzWk7v7k4&m=P4JQDygm3X1hfvZy-J2n_FmKFjzhlXgzzUniSd_A1Ko&s=N9bOYo22qxFm4WNkAYArOVsZ_WkIaypCv_O7e85oYrs&e= DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nylxs.com&d=DwIBAg&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=JMxjjbIZXCWilersPs1bzRx-3mUwTiQUzlyzWk7v7k4&m=P4JQDygm3X1hfvZy-J2n_FmKFjzhlXgzzUniSd_A1Ko&s=XPBfYtw1zWUafUSU2qhsxSShruQVQegAy3nojUMzZyY&e= - Leadership Development in Free Software https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www2.mrbrklyn.com_resources&d=DwIBAg&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=JMxjjbIZXCWilersPs1bzRx-3mUwTiQUzlyzWk7v7k4&m=P4JQDygm3X1hfvZy-J2n_FmKFjzhlXgzzUniSd_A1Ko&s=dllbjnddFAgOg2RdEthsGKqqqzR5Y-5F1m7fLB16IFo&e= - Unpublished Archive https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.coinhangout.com&d=DwIBAg&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=JMxjjbIZXCWilersPs1bzRx-3mUwTiQUzlyzWk7v7k4&m=P4JQDygm3X1hfvZy-J2n_FmKFjzhlXgzzUniSd_A1Ko&s=A_QbTloFaDacrxs2PWlgK6wyUqkwQ3Ju9b8USMjn7r4&e= - coins! https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.brooklyn-2Dliving.com&d=DwIBAg&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=JMxjjbIZXCWilersPs1bzRx-3mUwTiQUzlyzWk7v7k4&m=P4JQDygm3X1hfvZy-J2n_FmKFjzhlXgzzUniSd_A1Ko&s=KFGAoCZ9aTb4C61JwTgLo2PK5cFogq4GA_YWuz-3R5c&e= Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013