Re: The two lo'es (was: essentials of a gadri system)

Jorge "Llamb?as" <jjllambias2000-/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.science.linguistics.lojban.jboske
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la and cusku di'e

> CLL-lo'e must involve some scope-sensitive typicality operator.
> In that case, we would say "lo'e cinfo is intestinated by something short",
> but not "something short intestinates lo'e cinfo".

OK, that makes more sense. 

In that case, CLL-lo'e (lo'e1) could perhaps be defined in terms 
of Kind-lo'e (lo'e2) as something like:

lo'e1 broda = lo'e2 broda na'oku

CLL-lo'e = Kind plus typicality. 

If so, isn't the restricted CLL-lo'e a waste of cmavo? A Kind-lo'e could
include CLL-lo'e and easily and accurately specify its restricted 
application with {na'o} when so required:

lo'e cinfo na'o xabju le friko
Lions typically live in Africa.

mi pu viska lo'e cinfo bu'u na'ebo le friko
I saw lions outside of Africa.

> > In my view, lo'e kumte is sometimes female and sometimes male, sometimes
> > it has one hump and sometimes two (and other times none). In many context
> > the question is irrelevant. It is like asking "what does John Cowan hold
> > in his hand?". It varies with context, and in many contexts it is
> > irrelevant.
> 
> OK, but this boils down to saying "In my view, {lo'e} = Kind". Which is
> fair enough, but not really pertinent to interrogating the intent of
> CLL-lo'e.

Right. It's just that CLL-lo'e was being touted as "Mister", which it
is not. It can only be used for what "Mister" is or does typically.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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