Re: Re: essentials of a gadri system

"And Rosta" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.science.linguistics.lojban.jboske
Organization Livagian Consulate
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xorxes:
> la nitcion cusku di'e
>
> > > 5. Is-a-Subkind-of. Binary predicate taking Kind as one argument.
> >
> > This is not even a cmavo change (although it could be done with a cmavo
> > predicate), and I have no objection to it.
>
> What is a 'cmavo predicate'? Something in GOhA?

Something in ME, maybe. Better would be just quantifier plus LAhE/LE. And/or
something poi'i-like in NU.

> I think the closest predicate for is-a-subkind-of would be
> {klesi}:
>
> lo'e blabi xirma cu klesi lo'e xirma le ka blabi
> White Horse is Horse with property being white.
> White horses are horses that are white.
>
> Or also:
>
> lo'e blabi xirma cu klesi lo'e blabi le ka xirma
> White horses are white things that are horses.

I agree.

> I suppose we could have a LAhE for {lo'e klesi be}.

{klesi be LE/LAhE-Kind} would be the full form that it would be nice to
have an abbreviation for.

> > > 6. Subset-of: "is n% of" (= "contains x out of every y members
> > > of"), where n can be left vague and have the meaning "is a subset
> > > of". Binary predicates taking 1-4 as one argument.
> >
> > This can be either a tweak to ce'i, or a related MEI cmavo, possibly
> > with two numeric arguments, probably not (fractions should do).
>
> Isn't {si'e} for that? {zemuce'isi'e} seems to be "x1 is 75% of x2".

I want (6) to generalize over all fractional quantifiers: "x (out of every
y) of".

--And.
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