Re: lVi & xod-collectives

Jorge "Llamb?as" <jjllambias2000-/[email protected]> Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:26:27 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups gmane.science.linguistics.lojban.jboske
Message-ID <[email protected]>
la and cusku di'e

> Quantified forms are analogous to lo/le/la. They don't yield a distinct
> meaning when quantifying over members, but they do when quantifying over
> avatars
> and subkinds.
> 
> See http://www.lojban.org/wiki/index.php/XXS%3A%20Extended%20XS%20proposal

I fully support the outer PA section of XXS.

I don't object to the section on the extension to other gadri, but only
because it is reasonably compatible with basic XS and also very close 
to CLL. I just don't see much point in having all these gadri at 
all.

I take it that you can't say for example:

*lei ci nanmu cu bevri le pipno gi'ebabo surla
*The three men carried the piano and then rested.

"Resting" would be a property shared with the members, so not a property
of {lei ci nanmu}. You'd have toi say:

lei ci nanmu cu bevri le pipno ijebabo ro ra surla
The three men carried the piano and then each of them rested.

Whereas with XS-le there is no problem in saying: 

le ci nanmu cu bevri le pipno gi'ebabo surla
The three men carried the piano and then rested.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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