Re: Setting up a new language.

Pablo Saratxaga <pablo-7Aj/b8uzpy6AmYF/[email protected]> Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:48:38 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.international
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Kaixo!

On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:16:42AM -0500, Kieng wrote:
 
> I am new to this website.  I would like to set a Thai language up and
> I found the Thai language on the list of languages but I don't know
> it's on the new software or old software.

It's the old (to know which one it is very easy: old is ugly, new is nicer :)
compare http://th.wikipedia.org/ and http://gd.wikipedia.org/ both
eaqually empty and unstarted so far).

>  If it's on the old software, how I can change it or someone can help?

You should ask for it to be switched to the new software before starting
to work on it; as the old software supporting only iso-8859-1 you cannot
use thai for the wiki links (which for a Thai language wikipedia is a bit
annoying).

You may also look at translating the interface; look at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Create_a_new_language_in_Wikipedia
in particular translation of namespaces (eg "Wikipedia:", "Talk:" etc),
and some links embedded in the LanguageTh.php file; so you don't have some
pages refering to eg: "Wikipedia:Help" while some other "xxxxx:yyyyy" name
in Thai is used. 

Translation of the interface is however not a requirement; you can very
well just start adding content with an untranslated interface;
a localized interface however (even partially localized, but visibly localized,
eg: most of the menu text) will be an incentive to attract contributors;
a localized interface makes people more confident on using that language.

Ask for UTF-8.
 
>  I would be greatly appreciated for a clearer instruction.  

If the instructions seem too cumbersome, simply let that for later.
Once http://th.wikipedia.org/ had been switched to the new software,
you can simply start on it; make an account, log in, and start writting
articles.
You should change the main page to put some welcoming text,
and a link to the English wikipedia so people can look there the info
on how to edit pages etc, untill that info is written in the Thai wikipedia. 


While I'm at it...
Could the Guarani wikipedia (http://gn.wikipedia.org/) be switched to
new software and utf-8 too?
There had been some activity but it stopped when it was realized that
it was not possible to write links in guarani language (it uses 5 letters
outside of the iso-8859-1 character set); as the number of articles
there is still quite low (about a dozen or less) it shouldn't be a problem
to switch it.

Thanks

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Pablo Saratxaga

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