Re: can Wikipedia apply "CC-BY-SA-compatible FDL" retroactively?

At 01:20 PM 8/10/2008, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> > (So, for people to start copying Wikipedia content to Knol,
> > presumably two things would have to happen -- Knol would have to
> > allow CC-BY-SA as a publishing option, and FDL would have to be
> > revised to be CC-BY-SA-compatible.)
>
>In addition to that, they would need to remove the requirement from
>their terms of service that people give Google a much wider ranging
>license.

That's interesting.  Which part of the Knol TOS specifically, is it #8:
http://knol.google.com/k/-/-/si57lahl1w25/12#
which grants Google the right to "modify" and "create derivative 
works based on" what you submit to them?  Why is that incompatible, 
is it because this grants Google the right to "create derivative 
works" which take out the sharealike requirement, and you're not 
allowed to do that?

But strictly speaking, couldn't you make the same argument about the 
existing CC-BY attribution license?  CC-BY allows you to create 
derivative works *provided that you attribute the base work to the 
original author*.  Knol's TOS permits Google to "create derivative 
works", period, with or without crediting the author of the base 
work.  So couldn't you make the same argument that Knol's TOS is 
incompatible with CC-BY?

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