Re: How does the localisation of MediaWiki work (using Beta-wiki)

Teun Spaans wrote:
> Gerard,
>
> je schrijft ''Many messages now make use of the Plural
> construct; this allows for the correct phrasing of singular of plural
> forms of text in the messages.''
>
> Heb je een voorbeeld dat dit in de nederlandstalige wiki gebruikt wordt? Ik
> ben wel nieuwsgierig of dit goed gaat met onze gemengde +en en +s regels.
>
> teun
>
>   
Hoi,
De text voor: http://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Categories is 
"{{PLURAL:$1|Categorie|Categorieën}}". Kortom PLURAL geeft de 
mogelijkheid meerdere texten te schrijven die getoond worden afhankelijk 
of het enkelvoud of meervoud is.
Groetjes,
   GerardM
> On 7/9/06, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> wrote:
>   
>> Hoi,
>> Because of some misunderstanding let me try to explain how the latest
>> method of localisation works.
>>
>> History:
>> There used to be a situation that the localisation was done using a PHP
>> message file. This file needed to be updated when new messages came
>> about or when existing messages were changed. This happened because of
>> work done on the MediaWiki software. In practice this worked not that
>> well and there was also a need to have some messages changed to reflect
>> a policy or whatever that was specific to a project. Because of this the
>> messages exist. You can change and localise the messages in a project.
>>
>> The challenge:
>> The bigger projects with the exception of the en.wikipedia have a lot of
>> messages adapted for its language. For people for whom the project
>> language is a foreign language, the PHP messages are used because it is
>> all the information that is available to help. When a new project
>> starts, it does not benefit from the localisation work done elsewhere.
>> When a message is changed, it needs to be fixed for that language in ALL
>> projects.
>>
>> The work being done:
>> Nikerabbit and Gangleri have done absolutely great work by setting up a
>> wiki that is there to manage the localisation of MediaWiki. The result
>> of this project is that for many languages a proper localisation exists.
>> In the process of getting as far as we are, many issues with right to
>> left languages have been fixed both in the messages and in the core of
>> the MediaWiki software.. Many messages now make use of the Plural
>> construct; this allows for the correct phrasing of singular of plural
>> forms of text in the messages. The messages are platform agnostic; they
>> will however indicate the correct name of the project.
>>
>> The current issue:
>> In order to make use of the standardised messages, it is important to
>> use the standard messages and not have project specific messages that
>> say the same thing. Deleting /these /messages ensure that when a message
>> is changed, it will be part of the next update of the software. For the
>> project specific messages, it is important that someone who maintains
>> these messages is subscribed to the mediawiki-i18n-f4n82jGjeJOzKZ/[email protected]
>> mailing list. This list is used to inform about the messages/issues that
>> are of interest with respect to internationalisation. Wikimedia uses the
>> MediaWiki messages in all its projects and in all the languages the
>> message Outside the WMF there are many, many more wikis that will
>> benefit from us doing a better job localising the software.
>>
>> The challenge:
>> I have set myself the challenge to find more people to help with the
>> localisation for more languages. MediaWiki is great software is excels
>> because it has already been localised in so many languages. For those
>> languages where it did not yet happen, we find that the projects are not
>> doing that great. By finding interested people and organisations
>> MediaWiki will become more usable. It will become not only more usable
>> because it will become easier to start a project in languages like Akan
>> or Xhosa it will also become more easy to read projects like the
>> en.wikipedia as the user interface will no longer be a distraction.
>>
>> The question:
>> What if any are the practical issues with this strategy. From my
>> perspective there are only winners. * Project specific messages are
>> unaffected * All other messages benefit from an effort designed to
>> provide a timely and improved service.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>      GerardM
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