Re: [Olpc-uruguay] [Sur] Sugar Labs Oversight Board?

Caryl Bigenho <[email protected]> Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:18:34 -0700
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Tabitha I agree! Is there a tool out there somewhere that does simultaneous=
 translations?=20
Learning another language as an adult takes a real commitment and a lot of =
time. I have been working on Spanish for about 46+ years. I used it a lot i=
n my teaching and counseling job in Los Angeles. I am retired now and use i=
t when I travel and when I do volunteer work for OLPC. =20
The more I use it in translating=2C the more comfortable I get. Now I am at=
 the stage where I use a translator only to verify the accent marks and=2C =
sometimes=2C the gender of a noun.  My dictionary or thesaurus provides syn=
onyms when I would be using the same word more than once in a sentence... a=
 matter of style.
There are a lot of good online tools for learning English or Spanish.  Live=
 Mocha has some new subscription courses that seem to be an improvement on =
their old free ones=2C which are still available.  They don't take you very=
 far though=2C Alas! http://www.livemocha.com/

Caryl

Date: Thu=2C 23 Sep 2010 12:54:26 +1200
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-uruguay] [Sur] Sugar Labs Oversight Board?
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]=3B [email protected]=3B rosanor43=
@hotmail.com=3B iaep-g/[email protected]=3B [email protected]

I am so happy that my question of considering a deployment teacher on the S=
ugar oversight board is generating engagement with teachers - whatever happ=
ens from here we are already bringing the techies and the teachers closer t=
ogether just through this discussion.=20


I vote we all learn Spanish and English. Failing that=2C lets take another =
look at how we communicate. Maybe mailing lists are not the most appropriat=
e method? If we rethink our communication method and start looking for a wa=
y to talk that allows us to participate in our own language (even if the tr=
anslation is not perfect=2C maybe it is better than missing a lot of the ta=
lk due to reliance on a translator following all the mailing lists) that wo=
uld reduce the language barrier for others in the Sugar community too=2C no=
t just English and Spanish.=20

Tabitha=20
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Tabitha I agree! Is there a tool out there somewhere that does simultaneous=
 translations?&nbsp=3B<div><br></div><div>Learning another language as an a=
dult takes a real commitment and a lot of time. I have been working on Span=
ish for about 46+ years. I used it a lot in my teaching and counseling job =
in Los Angeles. I am retired now and use it when I travel and when I do vol=
unteer work for OLPC. &nbsp=3B</div><div><br></div><div>The more I use it i=
n translating=2C the more comfortable I get. Now I am at the stage where I =
use a translator only to verify the accent marks and=2C sometimes=2C the ge=
nder of a noun. &nbsp=3BMy dictionary or thesaurus provides synonyms when I=
 would be using the same word more than once in a sentence... a matter of s=
tyle.</div><div><br></div><div>There are a lot of good online tools for lea=
rning English or Spanish. &nbsp=3BLive Mocha has some new subscription cour=
ses that seem to be an improvement on their old free ones=2C which are stil=
l available. &nbsp=3BThey don't take you very far though=2C Alas!&nbsp=3B<a=
 href=3D"http://www.livemocha.com/">http://www.livemocha.com/</a><br><div><=
br></div><div>Caryl<br><br><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">Date: Thu=2C 23 Sep 2010=
 12:54:26 +1200<br>Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-uruguay] [Sur] Sugar Labs Over=
sight Board?<br>From: [email protected]<br>To: [email protected]<br=
>CC: [email protected]=3B [email protected]=3B rosanor4=
[email protected]=3B iaep-g/[email protected]=3B [email protected]<=
br><br>I am so happy that my question of considering a deployment teacher o=
n the Sugar oversight board is generating engagement with teachers - whatev=
er happens from here we are already bringing the techies and the teachers c=
loser together just through this discussion. <br>
<br>I vote we all learn Spanish and English. Failing that=2C lets take anot=
her look at how we communicate. Maybe mailing lists are not the most approp=
riate method? If we rethink our communication method and start looking for =
a way to talk that allows us to participate in our own language (even if th=
e translation is not perfect=2C maybe it is better than missing a lot of th=
e talk due to reliance on a translator following all the mailing lists) tha=
t would reduce the language barrier for others in the Sugar community too=
=2C not just English and Spanish. <br>
<br clear=3D"all">Tabitha <br>&nbsp=3B<br></div></div> 		 	   		  </body>
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