Re: [Olpc-uruguay] [Sur] Sugar Labs Oversight Board?

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On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Caryl Bigenho <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Tabitha I agree! Is there a tool out there somewhere that does
> simultaneous translations?
>

Mibbit is a web chat service that supports inline translation,
http://wiki.mibbit.com/index.php/Input_Options#Translation_Menu.

The #schoolserver channel, irc://irc.oftc.net#schoolserver, might be a good
place to use it.
Here is a Mibbit link to it,
https://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.oftc.net&channel=%23schoolserver

     --Fred
<http://wiki.mibbit.com/index.php/Input_Options#Translation_Menu>

>
> Learning another language as an adult takes a real commitment and a lot of
> time. I have been working on Spanish for about 46+ years. I used it a lot in
> my teaching and counseling job in Los Angeles. I am retired now and use it
> when I travel and when I do volunteer work for OLPC.
>
> The more I use it in translating, the more comfortable I get. Now I am at
> the stage where I use a translator only to verify the accent marks and,
> sometimes, the gender of a noun.  My dictionary or thesaurus provides
> synonyms when I would be using the same word more than once in a sentence...
> a matter of style.
>
> There are a lot of good online tools for learning English or Spanish.  Live
> Mocha has some new subscription courses that seem to be an improvement on
> their old free ones, which are still available.  They don't take you very
> far though, Alas! http://www.livemocha.com/
>
> Caryl
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:54:26 +1200
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-uruguay] [Sur] Sugar Labs Oversight Board?
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; iaep-g/[email protected];
> [email protected]
>
>
> I am so happy that my question of considering a deployment teacher on the
> Sugar oversight board is generating engagement with teachers - whatever
> happens from here we are already bringing the techies and the teachers
> closer together just through this discussion.
>
> I vote we all learn Spanish and English. Failing that, lets take another
> look at how we communicate. Maybe mailing lists are not the most appropriate
> method? If we rethink our communication method and start looking for a way
> to talk that allows us to participate in our own language (even if the
> translation is not perfect, maybe it is better than missing a lot of the
> talk due to reliance on a translator following all the mailing lists) that
> would reduce the language barrier for others in the Sugar community too, not
> just English and Spanish.
>
> Tabitha
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Caryl Bigenho <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">cbigenho@hotma=
il.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">





<div>
Tabitha I agree! Is there a tool out there somewhere that does simultaneous=
 translations?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Mibbit is a web chat s=
ervice that supports inline translation,=A0<a href=3D"http://wiki.mibbit.co=
m/index.php/Input_Options#Translation_Menu">http://wiki.mibbit.com/index.ph=
p/Input_Options#Translation_Menu</a>.</div>

<div><br></div><div>The #schoolserver channel, irc://<a href=3D"http://irc.=
oftc.net#schoolserver">irc.oftc.net#schoolserver</a>, might be a good place=
 to use it.</div><div>Here is a Mibbit link to it,=A0<a href=3D"https://www=
.mibbit.com/?server=3Dirc.oftc.net&amp;channel=3D%23schoolserver">https://w=
ww.mibbit.com/?server=3Dirc.oftc.net&amp;channel=3D%23schoolserver</a>=A0</=
div>

<div><br></div><div>=A0=A0 =A0 --Fred</div><div><a href=3D"http://wiki.mibb=
it.com/index.php/Input_Options#Translation_Menu"></a>=A0</div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex;">

<div><div><br></div><div>Learning another language as an adult takes a real=
 commitment and a lot of time. I have been working on Spanish for about 46+=
 years. I used it a lot in my teaching and counseling job in Los Angeles. I=
 am retired now and use it when I travel and when I do volunteer work for O=
LPC. =A0</div>

<div><br></div><div>The more I use it in translating, the more comfortable =
I get. Now I am at the stage where I use a translator only to verify the ac=
cent marks and, sometimes, the gender of a noun. =A0My dictionary or thesau=
rus provides synonyms when I would be using the same word more than once in=
 a sentence... a matter of style.</div>

<div><br></div><div>There are a lot of good online tools for learning Engli=
sh or Spanish. =A0Live Mocha has some new subscription courses that seem to=
 be an improvement on their old free ones, which are still available. =A0Th=
ey don&#39;t take you very far though, Alas!=A0<a href=3D"http://www.livemo=
cha.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.livemocha.com/</a><br>

<div><br></div><div>Caryl<br><div class=3D"hm"><br><hr>Date: Thu, 23 Sep 20=
10 12:54:26 +1200<br>Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-uruguay] [Sur] Sugar Labs Ov=
ersight Board?<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email protected]</a><br>

To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">cbigenho@hotm=
ail.com</a><br>CC: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:olpc-sur@l=
ists.laptop.org" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>; <a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</=
a>; <a href=3D"mailto:iaep-g/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">iaep@list=
s.sugarlabs.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a></div>

<div class=3D"im"><br><br>I am so happy that my question of considering a d=
eployment teacher on the Sugar oversight board is generating engagement wit=
h teachers - whatever happens from here we are already bringing the techies=
 and the teachers closer together just through this discussion. <br>


<br>I vote we all learn Spanish and English. Failing that, lets take anothe=
r look at how we communicate. Maybe mailing lists are not the most appropri=
ate method? If we rethink our communication method and start looking for a =
way to talk that allows us to participate in our own language (even if the =
translation is not perfect, maybe it is better than missing a lot of the ta=
lk due to reliance on a translator following all the mailing lists) that wo=
uld reduce the language barrier for others in the Sugar community too, not =
just English and Spanish. <br>


<br clear=3D"all">Tabitha <br>=A0<br></div></div></div> 		 	   		  </div>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>
IAEP -- It&#39;s An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:IAEP-g/[email protected]">IAEP-g/[email protected]</a><br=
>
<a href=3D"http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" target=3D"_blank">http=
://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a><br></blockquote></div><br>

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