RE: [Skate] The 2019 Ortygia European Championship Prediction Championship

Lars wrote: This gives the following points overall: (allround predictions)

1. Nils Meland.NOR 42 (as before)
2. Jos Kloppenborg.NED 40 (as before)
3. Kees de Vroege.NED 38 (up from 5th)
4. Carool van Kesteren.NED 37 (down from 3th)

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I feel a little like A. de Jong or B. de Loor from the old days. Tonight th=
ere is a docu on Barbara on Dutch TV. (Andere tijden sport 22:00)=20

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Met vriendelijke groet

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Carool van Kesteren=20

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Verzonden: zondag 13 januari 2019 0:09
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As everyone except Knut Anders predicted W=C3=BCst to win the 1500 m, only =
the time counts in this distance. The overall leader H=C3=A5kon was unlucky=
 and ended up outside the scoring range, but Nils was lucky and predicted t=
he exact winning time, for which he gets 2 bonus points in addition to the =
3 for excellent time prediction that he shares with Jos who predicted 1.57,=
08. So Nils wins gold and Jos silver, and the bronze is tied 5-way..=20

1. Nils Meland.NOR 5
2. Jos Kloppenborg.NED 3
3. Harm van den Belt.NED 2
Gerrit Stevens.NED 2
Carool van Kesteren.NED 2
Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 2
Kees de Vroege.NED 2
8. Marcel Warnaar.NED 1
Dick Pluim.NED 1
Sybe van Hijum.NED 1
Knut Anders L=C3=B8ken.NOR 1
12. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 0
Bert Steghuis.NED 0
Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 0
H=C3=A5kon M=C3=B8rk.NOR 0
Ivar Hansen.NOR 0
Lars Finsen.NOR 0
Bj=C3=B8rn Hagen.NOR 0

Outside of competition: Arild Jensen.NOR 1 point

Overall:

1. Nils Meland.NOR 11 (up from 6th)
2. Jos Kloppenborg.NED 10 (as before)
3. H=C3=A5kon M=C3=B8rk.NOR 9 (down from 1st)
Harm van den Belt.NED 9 (down from 2nd)
Gerrit Stevens.NED 9 (down from 2nd)
6. Carool van Kesteren.NED 8 (as before)
7. Bert Steghuis.NED 7 (down from 2nd)
Marcel Warnaar.NED 7 (down from 6th)
Knut Anders L=C3=B8ken.NOR 7 (down from 6th)
10. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 6 (down from 6th)
Lars Finsen.NOR 6 (down from 6th)
12. Sybe van Hijum.NED 6 (as before)
13. Kees de Vroege.NED 6 (as before)
Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 6 (as before)
15. Dick Pluim.NED 5 (down from 13th)
16. Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 3 (as before)
17. Bj=C3=B8rn Hagen.NOR 2 (as before)
18. Ivar Hansen.NOR 0 (as before)

Carrol and Brynjar wins the 2nd men=E2=80=99s sprint 500 m with the correct=
 winner and a good time prediction, scoring 5 points. But the overall leade=
r Jos is close behind along with Knut Egil, who score 4 points with Lorentz=
en and excellent time predictions, and Nils, who scored 4 with the correct =
winner, but less good time prediction.

1. Carool van Kesteren.NED 5
Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 5
3. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 4
Nils Meland.NOR 4
Jos Kloppenborg.NED 4
6. Gerrit Stevens.NED 2
7. Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 1
8. Ivar Hansen.NOR 0

Overall:

1. Jos Kloppenborg.NED 9 (as before)
2. Carool van Kesteren.NED 8 (up from 3rd)
Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 8 (up from 3rd)
4. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 7 (down from 3rd)
Nils Meland.NOR 7 (down from 3rd)
6. Gerrit Stevens.NED 6 (down from 2nd)
7. Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 2 (was 7th)
8. Ivar Hansen.NOR 0 (was 8th)

Only Brigt and Nils had the courage to predict a winning time below 38 in t=
he first female sprint 500 m =E2=80=93 curiously, as the outdoor record 38,=
03 was set on a lowland rink. Thus they win the distance along with Carool,=
 who=E2=80=99s also within the scoring range.

1. Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 4
Nils Meland.NOR 4
Carool van Kesteren.NED 4
4. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 3=20
Gerrit Stevens.NED 3
Jos Kloppenborg.NED 3
Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 3
8. Ivar Hansen.NOR 0

Overall:

1. Jos Kloppenborg.NED 12 (as before)
Carool van Kesteren.NED 12 (up from 2nd)
3. Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 11 (down from 2nd)
Nils Meland.NOR 11 (up from 4th)
5. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 10 (down from 4th)
6. Gerrit Stevens.NED 9 (as before)
7. Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 6 (as before)
8. Ivar Hansen.NOR 0 (as before)

Men=E2=80=99s allround was the last event to get under way and Keesie de Vr=
oege won the first distance in grand style with the correct winner and an e=
xcellent time prediction, 36,30. Nils, Carool and Jos share the silver with=
 the correct winner and a good time prediction.

1. Kees de Vroege.NED 6
2. Nils Meland.NOR 5
Carool van Kesteren.NED 5
Jos Kloppenborg.NED 5
5. H=C3=A5kon M=C3=B8rk.NOR 4
Sybe van Hijum.NED 4
7. Gerrit Stevens.NED 3
Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 3
Dick Pluim.NED 3
10. Lars Finsen.NOR 2
11. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 1
Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 1
Marcel Warnaar.NED 1
Bj=C3=B8rn Hagen.NOR 1
15. Bert Steghuis.NED 0
Harm van den Belt.NED 0
Ivar Hansen.NOR 0
Knut Anders L=C3=B8ken.NOR 0

Outside of competition, Arild Jensen.NOR 3 points, total 4.

Overall, Nils keeps his lead barely:

1. Nils Meland.NOR 16 (as before)
2. Jos Kloppenborg.NED 15 (as before)
3. H=C3=A5kon M=C3=B8rk.NOR 13 (as before)
Carool van Kesteren.NED 13 (up from 6th)
5. Gerrit Stevens.NED 12 (down from 3rd)
Kees de Vroege.NED 12 (up from 13th)
7. Sybe van Hijum.NED 10 (up from 12th)
8. Harm van den Belt.NED 9 (down from 3rd)
Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 9 (up from 13th)
10. Marcel Warnaar.NED 8 (down from 7th)
Lars Finsen.NOR 8 (as before)
Dick Pluim.NED 8 (up from 15th)
13. Bert Steghuis.NED 7 (down from 7th)
Knut Anders L=C3=B8ken.NOR 7 (down from 7th)
Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 7 (down from 10th)
16. Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 4 (as before)
17. Bj=C3=B8rn Hagen.NOR 3 (as before)
18. Ivar Hansen.NOR 0 (as before)

The female allround was the first event to finish, and Jos won its last dis=
tance, the 5000 m, in excellent style with the correct winner and an excell=
ent time prediction, 7.04,07. Kees wins silver with the correct winner and =
a good time prediction. 7 participants share the bronze with the correct wi=
nner and a fair time prediction, and Nils, the overall leader until now, sh=
ares it with de Jong and an even more excellent time prediction, 7.03,74.

1. Jos Kloppenborg.NED 6
2. Kees de Vroege.NED 5
3. Bert Steghuis.NED 4
Nils Meland.NOR 4
Gerrit Stevens.NED 4
Lars Finsen.NOR 4
Bj=C3=B8rn Hagen.NOR 4
Dick Pluim.NED 4
Sybe van Hijum.NED 4
Knut Anders L=C3=B8ken.NOR 4
11. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 3
Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 3
Harm van den Belt.NED 3
Marcel Warnaar.NED 3
15. H=C3=A5kon M=C3=B8rk.NOR 2
Carool van Kesteren.NED 2
Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 2
18. Ivar Hansen.NOR 0

Outside of competition: Arild Jensen.NOR 5 points, total 9

But before we add up, we must also score the samalog predictions for women=
=E2=80=99s allround. The 4 skaters who would have qualified if there were 1=
2 in the last distance are: 9. Nj=C3=A5tun, 10. Kazelina, 11. Wiklund and 1=
2. Alusalu. Along with the top 8 they give the following scores, with Brynj=
ar as the winner ahead of Knut Egil with bronze shared by Nils, Carool and =
Sybe:

1. Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 24
2. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 23
3. Nils Meland.NOR 22
Carool van Kesteren.NED 22
Sybe van Hijum.NED 22
6. Kees de Vroege.NED 21
7. Gerrit Stevens.NED 19
Jos Kloppenborg.NED 19
9. Lars Finsen.NOR 18
10. Michael Warnaar.NED 16
Bj=C3=B8rn Hagen.NOR 16
12. H=C3=A5kon M=C3=B8rk.NOR 15
Dick Pluim.NED 15
14. Harm van den Belt.NED 14
15. Knut Anders L=C3=B8ken.NOR 12
16. Bert Steghuis.NED 11
Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 11
Ivar Hansen.NOR 11

But look at this outside competitor: Arild Jensen.NOR 27 points, total 36, =
predicting: de Jong, Lollobrigida, S=C3=A1bl=C3=ADkov=C3=A1, W=C3=BCst, Vor=
onina, Actereekte, Lalenkova, Kazelina (not even bothering to pick the last=
 4).

This gives the following points overall:

1. Nils Meland.NOR 42 (as before)
2. Jos Kloppenborg.NED 40 (as before)
3. Kees de Vroege.NED 38 (up from 5th)
4. Carool van Kesteren.NED 37 (down from 3th)
5. Sybe van Hijum.NED 36 (up from 7th)
6. Gerrit Stevens.NED 35 (down from 5th)
Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 35 (up from 8th)
8. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 33 (up from 13th)
9. H=C3=A5kon M=C3=B8rk.NOR 30 (down from 3rd)
Lars Finsen.NOR 30 (up from 10th)
11. Marcel Warnaar.NED 27 (down from 10th)
Dick Pluim.NED 27 (down from 10th)
13. Harm van den Belt.NED 26 (down from 8th)
14. Knut Anders L=C3=B8ken.NOR 23 (down from 13th)
Bj=C3=B8rn Hagen.NOR 23 (up from 17th)
16. Bert Steghuis.NED 22 (down from 13th)
17. Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 18 (down from 16th)
18. Ivar Hansen.NOR 11 (as before)

The first female 1000 m was rather unpredictable and few points were scored=
... Knut Egil, Carool and Jos win it with good time predictions.

1. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 2
Carool van Kesteren.NED 2
Jos Kloppenborg.NED 2
4. Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 1
Nils Meland.NOR 1
Gerrit Stevens.NED 1
7. Ivar Hansen.NOR 0
Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 0

Overall:

1. Jos Kloppenborg.NED 14 (as before)
Carool van Kesteren.NED 14 (as before)
3. Nils Meland.NOR 12 (as before)
Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 12 (up from 5th)
5. Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 11 (down from 3rd)
6. Gerrit Stevens.NED 10 (as before)
7. Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 7 (as before)
8. Ivar Hansen.NOR 0 (as before)

Men=E2=80=99s sprint was the 2nd event to finish and it did with its 2nd 10=
00 m. Scoring was scarce here, too, due to the absence of the unanimous win=
ner. But Nils, Gerrit, Carool and Brynjar all have good time predictions an=
d win the distance.

1. Nils Meland.NOR 2
Gerrit Stevens.NED 2
Carool van Kesteren.NED 2
Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 2
5. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 1
Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 1
Jos Kloppenborg.NED 1
8. Ivar Hansen.NOR 0

Points for the samalogs here are very tight in the upper quarters:=20

1. Nils Meland.NOR 18
Jos Kloppenborg,NED 18
Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 18
4. Gerrit Stevens.NED 17
5. Carool van Kesteren.NED 15
6. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 13
7. Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 8
Ivar Hansen.NOR 8

Which give the following sprint standings after day 2:

1. Jos Kloppenborg.NED 33 (as before)
2. Nils Meland.NOR 32 (up from 3rd)
3. Carool van Kesteren.NED 31 (down from 1st)
Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 31 (up from 5th)
5. Gerrit Stevens.NED 29 (up from 6th)
6. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 26 (down from 3rd)
7. Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 16 (as before)
8. Ivar Hansen.NOR 8 (as before)

The last event today, which very soon becomes tomorrow, was the men=E2=80=
=99s 5000 m. Knut Egil, who was one of only 2 who picked Kramer (won=E2=80=
=99t we ever learn?) and made a good time prediction, wins it with 5 points=
... Gerrit, who predicted the time excellently with 6.18,00, and Sybe, who w=
as the other one to predict Kramer, won the silver with 4.=20

1. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 5
2. Gerrit Stevens.NED 4
Sybe van Hijum.NED 4
4. H=C3=A5kon M=C3=B8rk.NOR 3
Nils Meland.NOR 3
Carool van Kesteren.NED 3
Jos Kloppenborg.NED 3
Bj=C3=B8rn Hagen.NOR 3
9. Bert Steghuis.NED 2
Harm van den Belt.NED 2
Marcel Warnaar.NED 2
Lars Finsen.NOR 2
Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 2
Dick Pluim.NED 2
Kees de Vroege.NED 2
16. Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 1
Knut Anders L=C3=B8ken.NOR 1
Ivar Hansen.NOR 0

Outside of competition: Arild Jensen.NOR 2 points, total 38

Overall points after day 2:

1. Nils Meland.NOR 45 (as before)
2. Jos Kloppenborg.NED 43 (as before)
3. Kees de Vroege.NED 40 (as before)
Carool van Kesteren.NED 40 (up from 4th)
Sybe van Hijum.NED 40 (up from 5th)
6. Gerrit Stevens.NED 39 (as before)
7. Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 38 (up from 8th)
8. Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 37 (down from 6th)
9. H=C3=A5kon M=C3=B8rk.NOR 33 (as before)
10.Lars Finsen.NOR 32 (down from 9th)
11. Marcel Warnaar.NED 29 (as before)
Dick Pluim.NED 29 (as before)
13. Harm van den Belt.NED 28 (as before)
14. Bj=C3=B8rn Hagen.NOR 26 (as before)
15. Knut Anders L=C3=B8ken.NOR 24 (down from 14th)
Bert Steghuis.NED 24 (up from 16th)
17. Brigt B=C3=B8.NOR 19 (as before)
18. Ivar Hansen.NOR 11 (as before)

Good luck tomorrow!

LEF

=E2=80=A6from Redal, where I=E2=80=99ve seen stars that I=E2=80=99ve never =
seen before...





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