Re: ecovillage and sustainability

T <temeluch-/[email protected]> Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:46:45 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups gmane.technology.sustainable.ecobalance
Message-ID <[email protected]>
The first Rule of Law is that their aren't any Laws.
 
The obvious answer to your dilemma John is that you set up a governing body of some kind that hears cases and decrees Judgement. Rules of conduct do not really work in the real world. 
 
Judgement does work and it works very well. Panels. Boards. Committees. One solution is that the offenders must be forced to pay restitution or they will have to forfeit their homestead or other such place in the community. Mediation of course does usually come first. 
 
For this to work you do have to set things up Legally to allow for that to happen right from the start as in Eviction, as in Repossession, as in Losing your Lease. Foreclosure. 
 
Problem People must be dealt with swiftly and decisively. We must all be more than happy to put these offenders out the door in a heartbeat before any real damage is done. - T
 
http://sustcomm.com
 
 

John Schinnerer <john-/Gao9/[email protected]> wrote:
Aloha Chris 'n all,

 I'm talkin' what do you do when your neighbor in
your EV (or your suburban neighborhood or the upstair apartment or whatever)
does something you don't agree with and you won't change your mind and they
won't change their mind and then what?

What processes will be used, by the individuals and/or the larger group, in
this situation?
What will your villagers do when personal fecal matter surfaces in a consensus
decision-making session and the consensus process goes all to heck?
Consensus is well suited to making group decisions when all involved are
getting their essential needs met - what about when they're not and won't play
consensus?

And so on.
Sooner or later, it all comes down to human relatings.

Reflections from the various 'communes' and back-to-land groups and so on from
three and four decades ago generally indicate that if they melted down, it
wasn't ultimately because of money or technology or land or lack thereof or
whatever. It was because they didn't have (or didn't use, because we always
have the choice *not* to use) adequate and/or appropriate interpersonal
structure and process to deal with themselves and each other constructively
instead of destructively.

Peer pressure (like parenting) can be loving and healthy and supportive, or it
can be mean and cruel and ugly, with consequences reflecting which it is.

Which approach will your villagers take? How will your villagers know the
difference? Etc...



John Schinnerer - MA, Whole Systems Design
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