Re: Use of <q> within <rs>

I think this is quite a strange use of <rs> : the phrases you quote are 
some way away from things like "the village" or "over there" or even 
"The town formerly known as Princeton", in that though they do refer to 
a location, they don't really name it. So (in the absence of a specific 
<findspot> element) I think I'd argue for using an <ab> here, with an 
appropriate type i.e. <ab type="findspot">. In which case <q> and indeed 
<rs> would all be unequivocally available.



  On 30/10/16 16:47, Elisa Beshero-Bondar wrote:
> Hello, Scott--
> I was a little surprised to find that <rs> couldn't contain either a 
> <q> or (perhaps more precisely here) a <quote> element, but that's so. 
> I imagine this is because <rs> is thought to be sitting below the 
> level of the quotation marks. As defined in Chapter 3 of the 
> Guidelines, rs (referring string) is a "a phrase which refers to some 
> person, place, object, etc." So the question is, are your examples of 
> <rs> holding a little too much, and should they be sitting inside the 
> <q> elements? In your first example, maybe, but in your second 
> example, clearly not--we'd be losing referential information about 
> your findspot if we wrapped only chalet in the rs.
>
> This is perhaps a good opportunity for a ticket to permit <q> and 
> <quote> inside <rs>. What do others think? I'm happy to take this to 
> my colleagues on Council.
>
> Best,
> Elisa
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Scott Vanderbilt (TEI-L) 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Is there any particular reason why <q> is not permitted within <rs>?
>
>     I am attempting to mark-up archaeological findspots that
>     occasionally quote from another text, e.g.:
>
>        <rs type="findspot">said to have been found <q>5 km from centre
>        [of <placeName>Bath</placeName>], near a quarry near a
>     villa</q></rs>
>
>     and
>
>        <rs type="findspot">in excavation, re-used in a fourth-century
>        <q>chalet</q></rs>
>
>     However, <rs> does not permit such usage of <q> (or <quote> for
>     that matter), notwithstanding its being defined as "a _general
>     purpose_ name or referring string".
>
>     Is there some other sanctioned method of accomplishing my goal of
>     distinguishing the quoted text from the passages within which they
>     appear?
>
>     Thank you.
>
>
>
>
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