Re: Events and places

Frederik Elwert <[email protected]> Wed, 7 Dec 2016 12:48:09 +0100
Newsgroups	gmane.text.tei.general
Message-ID	<[email protected]>
Dear Jesper,

Am 07.12.2016 um 11:32 schrieb Jesper Zedlitz:
> I try to write biographic data in TEI. The succeed largely. However,
> there are some things that seem strange to me. Here is a small example:
> 
> <listPerson>
>   <person xml:id="p1">
>     <persName>
>       <forename>Karl Ludwig August</forename>
>       <surname>Winkelbrandt</surname>
>     </persName>
>     <birth when="1908-07-17" />
>     <residence>
>       <placeName>Köln-Kalk</placeName>
>     </residence>
>   </person>
>   <person xml:id="p2">
>     <persName>
>       <forename>Karolina Margareta</forename>
>       <surname>Leonhardt</surname>
>     </persName>
>     <birth when="1907-09-16" />
>   </person>
> </listPerson>
> 
> <listRelation type="personal">
>   <relation xml:id="rel1" name="spouse" mutual="#p1 #2" />
> </listRelation>
> 
> <listPlace>
>   <place xml:id="frankfurtStNikolai"
>          sameAs="http://gov.genealogy.net/object_168178">
>     <placeName>St. Nikolai Frankfurt M.</placeName>
>   </place>
>   <place xml:id="kölnkalk"
>          sameAs="http://gov.genealogy.net/KALALKJO30LW">
>     <placeName>Köln-Kalk</placeName>
>   </place>
> </listPlace>
> 
> <listEvent>
>   <event xml:id="event1" type="marriage"
>          when="1936-08-08" where="#frankfurtStNikolai">
>     <p/>
>   </event>
> </listEvent>
> 
> The <listRelation> element is not allowed as child clement of <body>. I
> have already created an issue for that
> <https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1552>

I think the usual way is to add listRelation as a child of listPerson.
But I don’t see any general reason why listRelation should not appear
directly in body.

> I understand that <residence> is a characteristic of a person, not an
> event. Is it still possible to link the place, in my example #kölnkalk?

Yes, you can use @ref on placeName:

    <residence>
      <placeName ref="#kölnkalk">Köln-Kalk</placeName>
    </residence>

> The <event> element must not be empty. Therefore, I inserted an empty
> <p/> element. This is somehow unsatisfactory. Is there a better solution?

True, it always requires some kind of prose. You could use
<label>marriage</label> instead of <p/>, which is a bit redundant to
your type information, but would serve as a human-readable label instead
of a enum value.

> Is it possible to link a person's state, (e.g., <persName>) or a
> relation with the event that triggered the change?

Indeed, I don’t know a perfect solution for this. But the ubiquitous
@corresp might be a good fit.

> The marriage event #event1 is not connected to the participants. Is it
> possible to link persons and events?

You could use <persName> as child of <desc>:

  <event xml:id="event1" type="marriage"
         when="1936-08-08" where="#frankfurtStNikolai">
    <label>Marriage</label>
    <desc>Marriage between <persName ref="#p1">Karl Ludwig August
Winkelbrandt</persName> and <persName ref="#p2">Karolina Margareta
Leonhardt</persName>.</desc>
  </event>

Or use <listPerson> as child of <desc> for a more database-like
representation.

Best,
Frederik


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