Re: Events and places

Martin Holmes <[email protected]> Wed, 7 Dec 2016 05:44:26 -0800
Newsgroups	gmane.text.tei.general
Message-ID	<[email protected]>
Hi there,

Many thanks for your bug report. This encoding approach looks good, and 
I see no reason why <listRelation> should not be allowed as a child of 
<body> alongside the other <list*> elements.

I would be inclined to link the <placeName>Köln-Kalk</placeName> inside 
the <residence> element to the <place> element in your <listPlace>, 
using @corresp. You can describe a person's state using the <state> 
element itself:

<http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-state.html>

and you could link this to the event that caused it, perhaps using a 
<link> element.

<event> is usually completed with a prose description or a <label> 
element; if you don't want to include any explanatory content, you could 
simply use an empty <p/> as you have done.

Hope this helps,
Martin

On 2016-12-07 02:32 AM, Jesper Zedlitz wrote:
> I try to write biographic data in TEI. The succeed largely. However,
> there are some things that seem strange to me. Here is a small example:
>
> <listPerson>
>   <person xml:id="p1">
>     <persName>
>       <forename>Karl Ludwig August</forename>
>       <surname>Winkelbrandt</surname>
>     </persName>
>     <birth when="1908-07-17" />
>     <residence>
>       <placeName>Köln-Kalk</placeName>
>     </residence>
>   </person>
>   <person xml:id="p2">
>     <persName>
>       <forename>Karolina Margareta</forename>
>       <surname>Leonhardt</surname>
>     </persName>
>     <birth when="1907-09-16" />
>   </person>
> </listPerson>
>
> <listRelation type="personal">
>   <relation xml:id="rel1" name="spouse" mutual="#p1 #2" />
> </listRelation>
>
> <listPlace>
>   <place xml:id="frankfurtStNikolai"
>          sameAs="http://gov.genealogy.net/object_168178">
>     <placeName>St. Nikolai Frankfurt M.</placeName>
>   </place>
>   <place xml:id="kölnkalk"
>          sameAs="http://gov.genealogy.net/KALALKJO30LW">
>     <placeName>Köln-Kalk</placeName>
>   </place>
> </listPlace>
>
> <listEvent>
>   <event xml:id="event1" type="marriage"
>          when="1936-08-08" where="#frankfurtStNikolai">
>     <p/>
>   </event>
> </listEvent>
>
> The <listRelation> element is not allowed as child clement of <body>. I
> have already created an issue for that
> <https://github.com/TEIC/TEI/issues/1552>
>
> I understand that <residence> is a characteristic of a person, not an
> event. Is it still possible to link the place, in my example #kölnkalk?
>
> The <event> element must not be empty. Therefore, I inserted an empty
> <p/> element. This is somehow unsatisfactory. Is there a better solution?
>
> Is it possible to link a person's state, (e.g., <persName>) or a
> relation with the event that triggered the change?
>
> The marriage event #event1 is not connected to the participants. Is it
> possible to link persons and events?
>
> Regards,
> Jesper
>