Re: transcription from handwritten text

Very interesting. What is the cost per page or per 1,000 words?
Martin Mueller
Professor emeritus of English and Classics
Northwestern University




On 1/27/17, 18:37, "TEI (Text Encoding Initiative) public discussion list
on behalf of Christian Thomas" <[email protected] on behalf of
[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi Paul,
>
>Am 27.01.2017 um 21:47 schrieb Paul Schaffner:
>> Has anyone used an outside firm or agency to transcribe and apply
>> markup to modern handwritten text? Or can recommend any capable
>> of doing so accurately?
>
>thanks for your question, like you, I would be very interested if other
>people would have tried that,! I had the expression it was not very
>common, but should be considered as an option more often. Anyway, I can
>really recommend it.
>
>In the Hidden Kosmos project
>(https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.culture.hu-2Dberl
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>1W8Ie0JL5ntKbgbzMTA8&s=70KPpK8fY79z6CyYsMx9v0OaCy8Sfyi1ThRxEk8rmck&e= )
>we worked together with
>a vendor, textloop (cf.
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__textloop.de_&d=CwIFaQ&
>c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=rG8zxOdssqSzDRz4x1GLlmLOW6
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>xEJcwYVrHuox-Ta70wgRrMS3YV9PZRcBgbE&e=  and
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__textloop.de_kosmos_&d=
>CwIFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=rG8zxOdssqSzDRz4x1G
>LlmLOW60xyVXydxwnJZpkxbk&m=uDKuXlOiWWznAEkE-C47OFU1W8Ie0JL5ntKbgbzMTA8&s=N
>t41_t2tCqNx6q3IBLPWvEbrjRxk9Ac9SIly4j6S6Y8&e= ), to transcribe 19th cent.
>handwritten text. 
>The vendor transcribed and annotated a total of ca. 2500 mansucript
>pages in record time and with outstanding accuracy. They delivered
>full-blown TEI accordung to specifications developed based on the DTA
>Base Format (DTABf,
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.deutschestextarchi
>v.de_doku_basisformat&d=CwIFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6
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>1W8Ie0JL5ntKbgbzMTA8&s=JImmJunj6jL-qp47pCgFkt3f9_omnjs3a1qfB7e_Pbc&e= )
>with some additional tags specific to handwritten texts like additions,
>deletions, etc. Susanne Haaf from the DTA presented some of these
>aspects at the TEI-MM 2015 in Lyon, and there is an upcoming paper on
>the DTABf for manuscripts to appear in the jTEI.
>
>You can see the results of textloop's work here in the Deutsches
>Textarchiv collection, and that way you also get an impression of the
>difficulty of the manuscripts. These are different student's notebooks
>documenting Alexander von Humboldts famous Kosmos-Lectures (1827/28).
>textloop transcribed these five notebooks:
>
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>
>It was ideal for us to work with a vendor for this project since we
>could focus on meticulous quality assurance, deeper annotation,
>cross-linking the documents, identifying scribes, tagging <persName>s
>and many other things that we would never have gotten round to if we
>would have had to transcribe the manuscripts ourselves. I am sure
>Martina Goedel from textloop will be happy to tell you more about how
>she organised her work and what this experience was like for her --
>since transcribing manuscripts (and not prints) via vendor still seems
>to be unusual and, in the Hidden Kosmos project, was a 'first' for both
>sides.
>
>Again, I'd be very interested to hear if others have experience with
>that workflow. Also, Paul, I'd be interested to see what the manuscripts
>you consider to have keyed by a vendor look like and, of course, am
>curious if this works out for you.
>
>Best wishes
>Christian
>
>
>Christian Thomas
>Hidden Kosmos: Reconstructing A. v. Humboldt¹s »Kosmos-Lectures«
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.culture.hu-2Dberli
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>
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>>
>> (This is a bit off-topic, so you may want to reply off-list.)
>>
>> Paul