Fwd: In manuscript copies, how to encode the date of origin of the original?

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From: Mathias Müller <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: In manuscript copies, how to encode the date of origin of the
original?
To: Franz Fischer <[email protected]>


On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Franz Fischer <[email protected]>
wrote:

> If I didn't misunderstood Mathias the manuscript in question (actually
> described) is a copy.
>

Yes, exactly.


> I agree "origin date" (of a copy) and "date of the original" (a different
> manuscript) is confusing.
> @type="copy" on <origDate> might help to avoid confusion:
>
> <history>
> <origin>
> <origDate type="copy" when="1589"/>
> <date type="original" when="1555"/>
> </history>
>

Thanks for your suggestions!


>
> Franz
>
>
> Am 06.02.2017 um 13:44 schrieb John T Young:
>
> Shouldn't that be @type="copy"?
>
> John
>
> On 06/02/2017 11:46, Franz Fischer wrote:
>
> Dear Mathias,
>
> How about this:
>
> <history>
> <origin>
> <origDate>1589</origDate>
> <date type="original">...</date>
> </origin>
> </history>
>
> Best,
> Franz
>
> Am 06.02.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Mathias Müller:
>
> Dear all
>
> We are TEI-encoding medieval law manuscripts, making use of all the
> elements of the "msdescription" module. I have a question about how to
> encode dates related to those manuscripts.
>
> For original manuscripts, I have encoded the date as follows (showing only
> the relevant part of the header):
>
>          <sourceDesc>
>             <msDesc>
>                <msIdentifier>
>                   <repository>Sample Holdings</repository>
>                   <idno>ex12345</idno>
>                </msIdentifier>
>                <history>
>                   <origin>
>                      <origDate>1589</origDate>
>                   </origin>
>                </history>
>             </msDesc>
>          </sourceDesc>
>
> But for manuscripts that are *copies* of older manuscripts, we have the
> following requirement: we need to encode both the date of origin of the
> copy and the date of origin of the original that the copy refers to. I am
> not sure how to encode both in the same header.
>
> Hence my question:
>
> While encoding a copy of an original manuscript, how to properly represent
> both the date of creation of the copy and the original manuscript? Both
> should be present in our TEI documents, but clearly separated from each
> other.
>
> I am glad to give additional information if needed.
>
> Thanks in advance and kind regards
> Mathias
> —
>
> Mathias Müller
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> University of Zurich
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> --
> Dr. Franz Fischer
> Cologne Center for eHumanities
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