Re: In manuscript copies, how to encode the date of origin of the original?

I think I would probably use <filiation>, which is intended to contain information on a manuscript’s “relationship to other surviving manuscripts of the same text”. Within <filiation> you can have <origDate>, or indeed a whole <msDesc>. Alternatively, you could point to another <msDesc>, the one for the source (the antigraph), and also the other way, from the original to the copy.

Matthew

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Thanks for the answers so far!
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 1:44 PM, John T Young <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Shouldn't that be @type="copy"?

No, if I understand correctly, history/origin/origDate should contain the date of the manuscript that is being encoded, regardless of whether it is a copy or not. Is this the correct interpretation?


John

On 06/02/2017 11:46, Franz Fischer wrote:
Dear Mathias,

How about this:

<history>
<origin>
<origDate>1589</origDate>
<date type="original">...</date>
</origin>
</history>

Best,
Franz

Am 06.02.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Mathias Müller:
Dear all
We are TEI-encoding medieval law manuscripts, making use of all the elements of the "msdescription" module. I have a question about how to encode dates related to those manuscripts.
For original manuscripts, I have encoded the date as follows (showing only the relevant part of the header):

         <sourceDesc>
            <msDesc>
               <msIdentifier>
                  <repository>Sample Holdings</repository>
                  <idno>ex12345</idno>
               </msIdentifier>
               <history>
                  <origin>
                     <origDate>1589</origDate>
                  </origin>
               </history>
            </msDesc>
         </sourceDesc>
But for manuscripts that are copies of older manuscripts, we have the following requirement: we need to encode both the date of origin of the copy and the date of origin of the original that the copy refers to. I am not sure how to encode both in the same header.
Hence my question:
While encoding a copy of an original manuscript, how to properly represent both the date of creation of the copy and the original manuscript? Both should be present in our TEI documents, but clearly separated from each other.
I am glad to give additional information if needed.
Thanks in advance and kind regards
Mathias
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