Re: seg and interp

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PS: I may have mis-read Roberto's last post now that I look at it again. At
any rate, the confusion seems to be where the *referents* to a taxonomy can
be marked. Given that the Guidelines make clear exactly where a taxonomy
element is to be placed in the teiHeader, and that the classDecl in which a
taxonomy appears is described as above "defining any classificatory codes
used elsewhere in the text", I think the Guidelines are pretty clear and
I'm not sure where we ought to make a revision.

* Perhaps it would be helpful, though, to include examples of material that
points to a classDecl taxonomy from within a document.
*  For those of us who like putting our classificatory schemes for large
projects in their own distinct files, perhaps we could use an example that
demonstrates use of a taxonomy in its own separate file, to which other
project files refer.

Are these worth adding to the Guidelines?

Elisa

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi everyone--
> I was about to go and open a ticket on this, but I'm pausing for a moment
> because I don't think it's necessary. I think Roberto was asking whether
> taxonomy element can be used within the text element of the TEI, and indeed
> it can't. It's a child either of taxonomy or of classDecl, which means that
> it's part of the teiHeader. But I think what we're all trying to clarify
> here is that the referents to a taxonomy ARE marked within the text
> elements of other documents.
>
> I'd point out that our explanation of classDecl is pretty clear:
> http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-classDecl.html
> <classDecl> (classification declarations) contains one or more taxonomies *defining
> any classificatory codes used elsewhere in the text.*
>
> I think we have this covered?
>
> Best,
> Elisa
>
> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Martin Holmes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 2017-05-05 06:54 AM, James Cummings wrote:
>>
>> I would point to the second example on:
>>> http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-taxonomy.html
>>> which indicates pointing to a taxonomy from an <lg>.  My recollection
>>> was this example was added by council specifically to indicate this kind
>>> of usage.  However, they appear to have overlooked <classDecl> needing a
>>> slight rephrasing.
>>>
>>
>> I think that's my example; I remember adding it when we updated the specs
>> to allow <taxonomy> to nest. I never thought to look at the wording of
>> <classDecl>.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD
> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English
> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division
> 150 Finoli Drive
> Greensburg, PA  15601  USA
> E-mail: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Development site: http://newtfire.org
>



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Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD
Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English
University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division
150 Finoli Drive
Greensburg, PA  15601  USA
E-mail: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Development site: http://newtfire.org

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<div dir=3D"ltr">PS: I may have mis-read Roberto&#39;s last post now that I=
 look at it again. At any rate, the confusion seems to be where the *refere=
nts* to a taxonomy can be marked. Given that the Guidelines make clear exac=
tly where a taxonomy element is to be placed in the teiHeader, and that the=
 classDecl in which a taxonomy appears is described as above &quot;defining=
 any classificatory codes used elsewhere in the text&quot;, I think the Gui=
delines are pretty clear and I&#39;m not sure where we ought to make a revi=
sion.<div><br></div><div>* Perhaps it would be helpful, though, to include =
examples of material that points to a classDecl taxonomy from within a docu=
ment.</div><div>* =C2=A0For those of us who like putting our classificatory=
 schemes for large projects in their own distinct files, perhaps we could u=
se an example that demonstrates use of a taxonomy in its own separate file,=
 to which other project files refer.</div><div><br></div><div>Are these wor=
th adding to the Guidelines?</div><div><br></div><div>Elisa</div></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 5, 2017 a=
t 1:56 PM, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ebb=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
 solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi everyone--=C2=A0<div>I was abo=
ut to go and open a ticket on this, but I&#39;m pausing for a moment becaus=
e I don&#39;t think it&#39;s necessary. I think Roberto was asking whether =
taxonomy element can be used within the text element of the TEI, and indeed=
 it can&#39;t. It&#39;s a child either of taxonomy or of classDecl, which m=
eans that it&#39;s part of the teiHeader. But I think what we&#39;re all tr=
ying to clarify here is that the referents to a taxonomy ARE marked within =
the text elements of other documents.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;=
d point out that our explanation of classDecl is pretty clear:=C2=A0<a href=
=3D"http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-classDecl.html"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://www.tei-c.org/<wbr>release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/<wbr=
>html/ref-classDecl.html</a> =C2=A0</div><div>&lt;classDecl&gt; (classifica=
tion declarations) contains one or more taxonomies <b>defining any classifi=
catory codes used elsewhere in the text.</b><br></div><div><b><br></b></div=
><div>I think we have this covered?=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</d=
iv><div>Elisa</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"h5">=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Martin Holm=
es <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<span>On 2017-05-05 06:54 AM, James Cummings wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I would point to the second example on:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-taxonomy=
.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.tei-c.org/release/d<=
wbr>oc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-taxo<wbr>nomy.html</a><br>
which indicates pointing to a taxonomy from an &lt;lg&gt;.=C2=A0 My recolle=
ction<br>
was this example was added by council specifically to indicate this kind<br=
>
of usage.=C2=A0 However, they appear to have overlooked &lt;classDecl&gt; n=
eeding a<br>
slight rephrasing.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
I think that&#39;s my example; I remember adding it when we updated the spe=
cs to allow &lt;taxonomy&gt; to nest. I never thought to look at the wordin=
g of &lt;classDecl&gt;.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Martin<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><span c=
lass=3D"">-- <br><div class=3D"m_4245917015798001113gmail_signature" data-s=
martmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Elisa=
 Beshero-Bondar, PhD</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">=
<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Director, Center for the =
Digital Text |=C2=A0Associate Professor of English</span><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.8px"><br>University of Pittsburgh at=C2=A0Greensburg |=C2=A0Human=
ities Division<br>150 Finoli Drive<br>Greensburg, PA =C2=A015601 =C2=A0USA<=
br>E-mail:<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204)" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br></span><span style=3D"color:rgb=
(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Development site:=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http://n=
ewtfire.org/" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.8px" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://newtfire.org</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</span></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=
=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0=
,0);font-size:12.8px">Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD</span><br style=3D"color:rg=
b(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px=
">Director, Center for the Digital Text |=C2=A0Associate Professor of Engli=
sh</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br>University of Pittsburgh at=
=C2=A0Greensburg |=C2=A0Humanities Division<br>150 Finoli Drive<br>Greensbu=
rg, PA =C2=A015601 =C2=A0USA<br>E-mail:<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204)" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br></=
span><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Development site:=C2=
=A0</span><a href=3D"http://newtfire.org/" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204);fo=
nt-size:12.8px" target=3D"_blank">http://newtfire.org</a><br></div></div></=
div></div></div></div></div>
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