Re: seg and interp
Lou Burnard <[email protected]> Fri, 5 May 2017 20:57:31 +0100
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FE56CB83A9EFA3838AF024F5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think Roberto is referring to (quotes from) the following passage at the start of 2.3.7 <div type="div3" xml:id="HD55"><head>The Classification Declaration</head> <p>The <gi>classDecl</gi> element is used to group together definitions or sources for any descriptive classification schemes used by other parts of the header. Each such scheme is represented by a <gi>taxonomy</gi> element... As I said in my reply, which you may have missed, all that is necessary is to add "or elsewhere in the document" at the end of the first sentence. On 05/05/17 19:03, Elisa Beshero-Bondar wrote: > PS: I may have mis-read Roberto's last post now that I look at it > again. At any rate, the confusion seems to be where the *referents* to > a taxonomy can be marked. Given that the Guidelines make clear exactly > where a taxonomy element is to be placed in the teiHeader, and that > the classDecl in which a taxonomy appears is described as above > "defining any classificatory codes used elsewhere in the text", I > think the Guidelines are pretty clear and I'm not sure where we ought > to make a revision. > > * Perhaps it would be helpful, though, to include examples of material > that points to a classDecl taxonomy from within a document. > * For those of us who like putting our classificatory schemes for > large projects in their own distinct files, perhaps we could use an > example that demonstrates use of a taxonomy in its own separate file, > to which other project files refer. > > Are these worth adding to the Guidelines? > > Elisa > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi everyone-- > I was about to go and open a ticket on this, but I'm pausing for a > moment because I don't think it's necessary. I think Roberto was > asking whether taxonomy element can be used within the text > element of the TEI, and indeed it can't. It's a child either of > taxonomy or of classDecl, which means that it's part of the > teiHeader. But I think what we're all trying to clarify here is > that the referents to a taxonomy ARE marked within the text > elements of other documents. > > I'd point out that our explanation of classDecl is pretty clear: > http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-classDecl.html > <http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-classDecl.html> > > <classDecl> (classification declarations) contains one or more > taxonomies *defining any classificatory codes used elsewhere in > the text.* > * > * > I think we have this covered? > > Best, > Elisa > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Martin Holmes <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > On 2017-05-05 06:54 AM, James Cummings wrote: > > I would point to the second example on: > http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-taxonomy.html > <http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-taxonomy.html> > which indicates pointing to a taxonomy from an <lg>. My > recollection > was this example was added by council specifically to > indicate this kind > of usage. However, they appear to have overlooked > <classDecl> needing a > slight rephrasing. > > > I think that's my example; I remember adding it when we > updated the specs to allow <taxonomy> to nest. I never thought > to look at the wording of <classDecl>. > > Cheers, > Martin > > > > > -- > Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD > Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English > University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division > 150 Finoli Drive > Greensburg, PA 15601 USA > E-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> > > > > > -- > Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD > Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English > University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division > 150 Finoli Drive > Greensburg, PA 15601 USA > E-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/> --------------FE56CB83A9EFA3838AF024F5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3D"Content-Ty= pe"> </head> <body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"> <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">I think Roberto is referring to (quote= s from) the following passage at the start of 2.3.7<br> <br> <div type=3D"div3" xml:id=3D"HD55"><head>The Classification Declaration</head><br> <p>The <gi>classDecl</gi> element is used to group<br> together definitions or sources for any descriptive classification<= br> schemes used by other parts of the header.=C2=A0 Each such scheme i= s<br> represented by a <gi>taxonomy</gi> element...<br> <br> As I said in my reply, which you may have missed, all that is necessary is to add "or elsewhere in the document" at the end of the first sentence.<br> <br> <br> <br> On 05/05/17 19:03, Elisa Beshero-Bondar wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite=3D"mid:[email protected]= l.com" type=3D"cite"> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Du= tf-8"> <div dir=3D"ltr">PS: I may have mis-read Roberto's last post now that I look at it again. At any rate, the confusion seems to be where the *referents* to a taxonomy can be marked. Given that the Guidelines make clear exactly where a taxonomy element is to be placed in the teiHeader, and that the classDecl in which a taxonomy appears is described as above "defining any classificatory codes used elsewhere in the text", I think the Guidelines are pretty clear and I'm not sure where we ought to make a revision. <div><br> </div> <div>* Perhaps it would be helpful, though, to include examples of material that points to a classDecl taxonomy from within a document.</div> <div>* =C2=A0For those of us who like putting our classificatory schemes for large projects in their own distinct files, perhaps we could use an example that demonstrates use of a taxonomy in its own separate file, to which other project files refer.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Are these worth adding to the Guidelines?</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Elisa</div> </div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Elisa Beshero-Bondar <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true= " href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]= du</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi everyone--=C2=A0 <div>I was about to go and open a ticket on this, but I'm pausing for a moment because I don't think it's necessary. I think Roberto was asking whether taxonomy element can be used within the text element of the TEI, and indeed it can't. It's a child either of taxonomy or of classDecl, which means that it's part of the teiHeader. But I think what we're all trying to clarify here is that the referents to a taxonomy ARE marked within the text elements of other documents.=C2=A0</div> <div><br> </div> <div>I'd point out that our explanation of classDecl is pretty clear:=C2=A0<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-classDecl= .html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.tei-c.org/<wbr>release/doc= /tei-p5-doc/en/<wbr>html/ref-classDecl.html</a> =C2=A0</div> <div><classDecl> (classification declarations) contains one or more taxonomies <b>defining any classificatory codes used elsewhere in the text.</b><br= > </div> <div><b><br> </b></div> <div>I think we have this covered?=C2=A0</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Best,</div> <div>Elisa</div> </div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"> <div> <div class=3D"h5"><br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Martin Holmes <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"= >[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0= 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><= span>On 2017-05-05 06:54 AM, James Cummings wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin= :0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I would point to the second example on:<br> <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-taxonomy.= html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://w= ww.tei-c.org/release/d<wbr>oc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-taxo<wbr>nomy.html</= a><br> which indicates pointing to a taxonomy from an <lg>.=C2=A0 My recollection<br> was this example was added by council specifically to indicate this kind<br> of usage.=C2=A0 However, they appear to have overlooked <classDecl> needing a<br> slight rephrasing.<br> </blockquote> <br> </span> I think that's my example; I remember adding it when we updated the specs to allow <taxonomy> to nest. I never thought to look at the wording of <classDecl>.<br> <br> Cheers,<br> Martin<br> </blockquote> </div> <br> <br clear=3D"all"> <div><br> </div> </div> </div> <span class=3D"">-- <br> <div class=3D"m_4245917015798001113gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8p= x">Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8p= x"> <span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8p= x">Director, Center for the Digital Text |=C2=A0Associ= ate Professor of English</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br> University of Pittsburgh at=C2=A0Greensbu= rg |=C2=A0Humanities Division<br> 150 Finoli Drive<br> Greensburg, PA =C2=A015601 =C2=A0USA<br> E-mail:<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204)" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</= a><br> </span><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8p= x">Development site:=C2=A0</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"t= rue" href=3D"http://newtfire.org/" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:1= 2.8px" target=3D"_blank">http://newtfire.org</a>= <br> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </span></div> </blockquote> </div> <br> <br clear=3D"all"> <div><br> </div> -- <br> <div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"= > <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px= ">Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"> <span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">D= irector, Center for the Digital Text |=C2=A0Associate Professor of English</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br> University of Pittsburgh at=C2=A0Greensburg |=C2=A0Humanities Division<br> 150 Finoli Drive<br> Greensburg, PA =C2=A015601 =C2=A0USA<br> E-mail:<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204)" target=3D"_blank= ">[email protected]</a><br> </span><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Devel= opment site:=C2=A0</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"http://newtfire.org/" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.8px" target=3D"_blank">http://newtfire.org</a><br> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <p><br> </p> </body> </html> --------------FE56CB83A9EFA3838AF024F5--