RE: Re: Tamil C(S)ivamayam
"Bala" <[email protected]>
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Sarves (Sri Lanka)----------- We can't compare U+002E and U+0BF3. Because, U+002E doesn't have any defined meaning – it's an ambiguous character (http://unicode.org/reports/tr29/tr29-6.html). Therefore it can be used to represent anything. But if you take U+0BF3, it has a defined meaning (The Day sign). So I don't know whether it is good to use U+0BF3 for Civamayam? ------------------- In Tamil we have the 0B83 (ஃ ) which is used in text. As well when we write a Tamil equation we write like follows ப = 5 ம = 10 ஃ ப + ம = 15 Here the is ஃ is used as meaning of “there for”. Around 1960-1970 lots of Tamil mathematics books were printed. This is same character but according to the place it will get the different meaning. There for we do not says that ஃ is a ambiguous character. I feel civamayam and day sign is in similar category *now*. But I have a feeling there is a slight different in shape. If we manage to find the different it’s better we get a different code point. Else Unicode have to give a solution. Thank you Bala From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarves K Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 3:27 PM To: Doug Ewell Cc: Unicode Mailing List Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Tamil C(S)ivamayam On 11/7/07, Doug Ewell <[email protected]> wrote: Bala (Sri Lanka) wrote: > The civamayam is very commonly used in Tamil text. In present days > compare to day sign and Tamil number 2, the civamayam symbol used very > frequently. This been used in start of books, almost 90% of the Tamil > wedding cards and so on. > > But when I am looking at the shape I cannot see the difference between > Tamil day sign and civamayam. Neither can I, though both are clearly different from the digit 2. > (1) Why there is no code point to the civamayam symbol in Unicode? > Is that because of the same/similar glyph? Perhaps. Has anyone ever proposed encoding it separately? Is it encoded separately in any other coded character encoding? > Or Tamils missed out to list to Unicode? I wouldn't recommend going down this path. > (2) Are we expected to use the 0BF3 – Tamil Day sign for civamayam > as well? In American English, the same coded character, U+002E, is used: * as a sentence terminator * as a marker for certain abbreviations * as a decimal separator * as part of an ellipsis indicating continuation * as a separator between parts of a URL or IP address * as part of a "dotted leader" in a table of contents * and probably for other purposes as well. If you wish to propose disunifying the civamayam symbol from U+0BF3, you will probably need to explain how that situation differs from the U+002E situation. -- Doug Ewell * Fullerton, California, USA * RFC 4645 * UTN #14 NEW E-MAIL --> dewell at roadrunner dot com NEW URL --> http://home.roadrunner.com/~dewell http://www1.ietf.org/html.charters/ltru-charter.html http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages ˆ We can't compare U+002E and U+0BF3. Because, U+002E doesn't have any defined meaning – it's an ambiguous character (http://unicode.org/reports/tr29/tr29-6.html). Therefore it can be used to represent anything. But if you take U+0BF3, it has a defined meaning (The Day sign). So I don't know whether it is good to use U+0BF3 for Civamayam? Thanks, Sarves (Sri Lanka)