Re: German sharp S uppercase mapping

Daniel Buncic via Unicode wrote in
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 |Am 02.12.2024 um 21:06 schrieb Steffen Nurpmeso via Unicode:
 |> Not surprising but tradition. Please let me attach a colourized
 |> photographie of Köln from when Germany still had an emperor, with
 |> hand painted plaques, and on the plaque of the ferry (beside the
 |> ponton bridge) one can read "Ueberfahrt nach Köln".  (A bit size
 |> reduced but readable.)
 |
 |A very nice photograph.  However, the case with “Ueberfahrt” is a 
 |completely different one.  That has to do with the fact that in old 
 |letterpress printing there was no space for diacritics above capitals. 
 |This is why Ü had to be replaced with Ue, just like a) in Czech until 
 |the 19th century, Cz was written instead of Č, Sſ instead of Š, etc., b) 
 |Polish Ż was often simply written as Z without the dot or replaced with 
 |Ƶ, which is still often written in handwriting, c) there is an official 
 |rule in French orthography to this day that you do not have to place 
 |accent marks on capitals, which means that you can choose between “Etat” 
 |and “État”, d) Greek diacritics are placed before capitals, e.g. Άθως 
 |for the mountain Athos (where Áθως would simply be wrong), e) in Italian 
 |you can often see things like CAFFE’ instead of CAFFÈ, etc.  But Köln, 
 |with a small ö, is spelled “Köln” on the same sign; there was no reason 

Ok.  Interesting discourse, thanks.

 |for “Koeln”.  The modern examples I gave are different, they have 
 |“Koeln” or even “koeln” for completely different reasons.  And these 
 |reasons are the same as for writing ss instead of ß in many similar 
 |cases; that’s why I brought them up.
 |
 |> And yes, it gets more schizophrenic now you can use this letter but
 |> have to write aufwändiger Missstand instead of aufwendiger Mißstand.
 |
 |I don’t think we have to discuss the spelling reform of 1998 here...

Now as a conservative person i want to point to that photo of
Frankfurt/Main, where it is uppercase STRASSE, and i for one am
not keen to use an uppercase ß, however nice it is integrated into
german keyboard layout aka ẞ.

 |Best wishes,

Ciao,

--steffen
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