Re: Now that the release is out, what's next?

Cédric Damioli <[email protected]> Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:47:14 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.text.xml.cocoon.devel
Organization Apache Software Foundation
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi,

On top of that, as a community, we now have to formally answer to the 
below question (going or not to the Attic) not only once, but three 
times, one time for each subproject we still officially maintain since 
more than 10 years :
  - Cocoon 2.1.x (pre-Spring, pre-Maven). Last release 2.1.13 was rolled 
out 3 years ago.
  - Cocoon 2.2x (now 2.3.x). Last release these days.
  - Cocoon 3.0.x. Last release 3.0.0-alpha-3 back in 2011

Those 3 versions are not compatible with each other, are not meant as 
drop-in replacements, and have evolved differently over the years.

The community could either decide to stop the project as-is and go to 
the Attic, or start over maintaining only one or two branches.

Cédric

Le 19/11/2023 à 18:20, Christofer Dutz a écrit :
>
> Hi folks,
>
> So, it seems that we finally have finished the last missing steps to 
> formally get the release out the door. Now I think comes a time where 
> we should reflect and discuss, what should happen with the Project.
>
> So instead of simply saying: Releasing it was such a struggle (not 
> technically, but from a participation side) I wouldn’t say this 
> project is healthy and we should discuss a move into the Attic.
>
> However, I could also imagine that the changes I implemented in the 
> build might encourage some folks to give it another go.
>
> I know when I was doing projects with Cocoon as part of my day-job 20 
> years ago, Cocoon 2.2 sort of completely broke my flow. Not only my 
> inexperience with Maven, but also that of Spring and the versioning 
> scheme where all sorts of cocoon modules had different versions just 
> made me give up at that time and switch to Adobe Flex ;-)
>
> Now (15 years later) Maven and Spring have evolved and with the 
> cleanups in the build, it should be a lot simpler to work with Cocoon 
> and with all modules sharing the same version, also this should be a 
> lot simpler.
>
> So, I would like to ask you folks:
>
>   * Should we aim directly for the Attic?
>   * Does anyone want to revive the project? (I’m intentionally not
>     only addressing committers and PMC members, but also people
>     wanting to keep the project alive)
>
> Chris
>

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