Re: [DISCUSS] Retiring 3.0 ? (Was: Re: Future of the Cocoon project)

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On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 10:41=E2=80=AFAM C=C3=A9dric Damioli <cdamioli@apach=
e.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> First of the sub-project to be discussed, the Cocoon 3 project.
> Never released, it only reached the alpha status 12 years ago.
> Its goal was to provide a pure Java API on top of pipelines and sitemaps
> concept, to be able to easily implements lightweight REST applications.
>
> We'd like to know whether you'd prefer:

[+1 ] retiring Cocoon 3.0
>


> [ ] reviving/maintaining Cocoon 3.0, meaning that you volunteer to be
> somehow involved
>
> Please note that the above proposal is not a formal vote, but more like
> a open poll, so that everyone could speak out.
>
> C=C3=A9dric
>
I too had some fun building stuff with 3.0 but I can't see a use for it any
more.

+1 to retiring it (if it's not obvious from above)

Peter Hunsberger



> Le 30/11/2023 =C3=A0 19:53, C=C3=A9dric Damioli a =C3=A9crit :
> > Dear Cocoon users and developers,
> >
> > Sorry for crossposting here, I wanted to be sure that all involved
> > people were aware of the ongoing discussions.
> >
> > We recently pushed a new release of Cocoon, 11 years after the
> > previous one. This release gathers all changes made in between as well
> > as two security fixes discovered last year.
> > The journey to roll this release out was definitively not an easy one,
> > and it's now time to think about what should be next for the project.
> >
> > We currently officially maintain 3 branches, not compatible with each
> > others and having evolved differently over the years : 2.1.x, 2.2/2.3
> > and 3.0, and we do not have enough active developers to be able to
> > continue to properly and correctly maintain them.
> >
> > For a project as old as Cocoon (21 years!), there may be many users
> > around here still using one branch or another, which could be
> > interested to step up, contribute and try to revive the project, or at
> > least some parts of it.
> >
> > I will soon start 3 threads on the developers list to decide what to
> > do about each of the 3 branches (retiring or not), so I encourage
> > volunteers to bring their voices.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > C=C3=A9dric, on behalf of the Apache Cocoon PMC
> >
>
> --
> C=C3=A9dric Damioli
> CMS - Java - Open Source
> www.ametys.org
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 10:41=E2=80=AFAM C=
=C3=A9dric Damioli &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">cdamioli@apac=
he.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left=
:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
First of the sub-project to be discussed, the Cocoon 3 project.<br>
Never released, it only reached the alpha status 12 years ago.<br>
Its goal was to provide a pure Java API on top of pipelines and sitemaps <b=
r>
concept, to be able to easily implements lightweight REST applications.<br>
<br>
We&#39;d like to know whether you&#39;d prefer:</blockquote><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">[+1 ] retiring Cocoon 3.0<br></blockquot=
e><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
[ ] reviving/maintaining Cocoon 3.0, meaning that you volunteer to be <br>
somehow involved<br>
<br>
Please note that the above proposal is not a formal vote, but more like <br=
>
a open poll, so that everyone could speak out.<br>
<br>
C=C3=A9dric<br></blockquote><div>I too had some fun building stuff with 3.0=
 but I can&#39;t see a use for it any more.</div><div><br></div><div>+1 to =
retiring it (if it&#39;s not obvious from=C2=A0above)<br></div><br class=3D=
"gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">Peter Hunsberger<br class=3D"gmail-Apple-=
interchange-newline"><div>=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Le 30/11/2023 =C3=A0 19:53, C=C3=A9dric Damioli a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br>
&gt; Dear Cocoon users and developers,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sorry for crossposting here, I wanted to be sure that all involved <br=
>
&gt; people were aware of the ongoing discussions.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We recently pushed a new release of Cocoon, 11 years after the <br>
&gt; previous one. This release gathers all changes made in between as well=
 <br>
&gt; as two security fixes discovered last year.<br>
&gt; The journey to roll this release out was definitively not an easy one,=
 <br>
&gt; and it&#39;s now time to think about what should be next for the proje=
ct.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We currently officially maintain 3 branches, not compatible with each =
<br>
&gt; others and having evolved differently over the years : 2.1.x, 2.2/2.3 =
<br>
&gt; and 3.0, and we do not have enough active developers to be able to <br=
>
&gt; continue to properly and correctly maintain them.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; For a project as old as Cocoon (21 years!), there may be many users <b=
r>
&gt; around here still using one branch or another, which could be <br>
&gt; interested to step up, contribute and try to revive the project, or at=
 <br>
&gt; least some parts of it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I will soon start 3 threads on the developers list to decide what to <=
br>
&gt; do about each of the 3 branches (retiring or not), so I encourage <br>
&gt; volunteers to bring their voices.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Best regards,<br>
&gt; C=C3=A9dric, on behalf of the Apache Cocoon PMC<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
-- <br>
C=C3=A9dric Damioli<br>
CMS - Java - Open Source<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ametys.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.=
ametys.org</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div></div>

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