Re: [DISCUSS] Retiring 2.x ? (Was: Re: Future of the Cocoon project)

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On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 11:00=E2=80=AFAM C=C3=A9dric Damioli <cdamioli@apach=
e.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Second thread to discuss about Cocon 2.x branch, with the latest
> release, 2.3.0, just being rolled out.
> Cocoon 2.2 was initially meant to implements all stuff developed during
> the 2.1 cycle on top of Spring and Maven, to drop old Avalon dependencies=
.
>
> We'd like to know whether you'd prefer:
> [-1 ] retiring Cocoon 2.x
>


> [+0] reviving/maintaining Cocoon 2.x, meaning that you volunteer to be
> somehow involved
>
> Please note that the above proposal is not a formal vote, but more like
> a open poll, so that everyone could speak out.
>
> Should we continue the project and this branch particularly, there are
> recent threads on this list proposing to switch to Git, to upgrade
> dependencies, build system, ...
>
> C=C3=A9dric
>

Not sure I can really commit to helping much, other than testing releases,
I don't see having the time to dive into the code anymore but I do still
see people using this code base.

Peter Hunsberger


> Le 30/11/2023 =C3=A0 19:53, C=C3=A9dric Damioli a =C3=A9crit :
> > Dear Cocoon users and developers,
> >
> > Sorry for crossposting here, I wanted to be sure that all involved
> > people were aware of the ongoing discussions.
> >
> > We recently pushed a new release of Cocoon, 11 years after the
> > previous one. This release gathers all changes made in between as well
> > as two security fixes discovered last year.
> > The journey to roll this release out was definitively not an easy one,
> > and it's now time to think about what should be next for the project.
> >
> > We currently officially maintain 3 branches, not compatible with each
> > others and having evolved differently over the years : 2.1.x, 2.2/2.3
> > and 3.0, and we do not have enough active developers to be able to
> > continue to properly and correctly maintain them.
> >
> > For a project as old as Cocoon (21 years!), there may be many users
> > around here still using one branch or another, which could be
> > interested to step up, contribute and try to revive the project, or at
> > least some parts of it.
> >
> > I will soon start 3 threads on the developers list to decide what to
> > do about each of the 3 branches (retiring or not), so I encourage
> > volunteers to bring their voices.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > C=C3=A9dric, on behalf of the Apache Cocoon PMC
> >
>
> --
> C=C3=A9dric Damioli
> CMS - Java - Open Source
> www.ametys.org
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 11:00=E2=80=AF=
AM C=C3=A9dric Damioli &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">cdamioli@=
apache.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
Second thread to discuss about Cocon 2.x branch, with the latest <br>
release, 2.3.0, just being rolled out.<br>
Cocoon 2.2 was initially meant to implements all stuff developed during <br=
>
the 2.1 cycle on top of Spring and Maven, to drop old Avalon dependencies.<=
br>
<br>
We&#39;d like to know whether you&#39;d prefer:<br>
[-1 ] retiring Cocoon 2.x<br></blockquote><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
[+0] reviving/maintaining Cocoon 2.x, meaning that you volunteer to be <br>
somehow involved<br>
<br>
Please note that the above proposal is not a formal vote, but more like <br=
>
a open poll, so that everyone could speak out.<br>
<br>
Should we continue the project and this branch particularly, there are <br>
recent threads on this list proposing to switch to Git, to upgrade <br>
dependencies, build system, ...<br>
<br>
C=C3=A9dric<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not sure I can really commi=
t to helping much, other than testing releases, I don&#39;t see having the =
time to dive into the code anymore but I do still see people using this cod=
e base.</div><div><br></div><div>Peter Hunsberger<br class=3D"gmail-Apple-i=
nterchange-newline"></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex">
Le 30/11/2023 =C3=A0 19:53, C=C3=A9dric Damioli a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br>
&gt; Dear Cocoon users and developers,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sorry for crossposting here, I wanted to be sure that all involved <br=
>
&gt; people were aware of the ongoing discussions.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We recently pushed a new release of Cocoon, 11 years after the <br>
&gt; previous one. This release gathers all changes made in between as well=
 <br>
&gt; as two security fixes discovered last year.<br>
&gt; The journey to roll this release out was definitively not an easy one,=
 <br>
&gt; and it&#39;s now time to think about what should be next for the proje=
ct.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We currently officially maintain 3 branches, not compatible with each =
<br>
&gt; others and having evolved differently over the years : 2.1.x, 2.2/2.3 =
<br>
&gt; and 3.0, and we do not have enough active developers to be able to <br=
>
&gt; continue to properly and correctly maintain them.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; For a project as old as Cocoon (21 years!), there may be many users <b=
r>
&gt; around here still using one branch or another, which could be <br>
&gt; interested to step up, contribute and try to revive the project, or at=
 <br>
&gt; least some parts of it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I will soon start 3 threads on the developers list to decide what to <=
br>
&gt; do about each of the 3 branches (retiring or not), so I encourage <br>
&gt; volunteers to bring their voices.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Best regards,<br>
&gt; C=C3=A9dric, on behalf of the Apache Cocoon PMC<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
-- <br>
C=C3=A9dric Damioli<br>
CMS - Java - Open Source<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ametys.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.=
ametys.org</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div></div>

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