Re: AW: AW: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x
Cédric Damioli <[email protected]> Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:30:15 +0100
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------fpHaUALVnGaO3odhj6000J1G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit +1 Cédric Le 23/01/2024 à 17:25, Christofer Dutz a écrit : > > Yeah … I also think that possibly making them read-only (and > additionally prefixing them with a “retired/” prefix should be enough. > > Chris > > *Von: *Cédric Damioli <[email protected]> > *Datum: *Freitag, 12. Januar 2024 um 20:48 > *An: *[email protected] <[email protected]> > *Betreff: *Re: AW: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x > > Why should retired branches be deleted ? > Shouldn't they instead be somehow put in read-only state but kept > available for anyone needing them ? > > My 2 cents, > Cédric > > Le 09/01/2024 à 14:40, Christofer Dutz a écrit : > > So, I guess the deletion of the “retired” branches should probably > be done by a PMC member. > > I’m happy to help with migrating 2.3.x to git as soon as the old > stuff is buried, if the project wants this to happen. > > Chris > > *Von: *Christofer Dutz <[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]> > *Datum: *Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 um 20:25 > *An: *[email protected] <[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]> > *Betreff: *AW: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x > > How about a Mexican style funeral party at Community Over Code? ;-) > > Cocoon 2.1 was such a big part of my early IT carreer … > > Chris > > *Von: *Cédric Damioli <[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]> > *Datum: *Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 um 19:40 > *An: *[email protected] <[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]> > *Betreff: *[RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x > > The vote is now over and successful with 4 binding +1 and no -1 : > > * Francesco Chicchiriccò > * Peter Hunsberger > * Jörg Heinicke > * Cédric Damioli > > The PMC is now tasked to do what is needed to effectively retire > 2.1/3.0. > > As discussed before, it's now time for volunteers to step up to do > whatever is needed to actively maintain a now-refocused Cocoon > project (migration to Git, dependencies upgrades, ...). > > Farewell, good old 2.1 :) > > Regards, > Cédric > > Le 13/12/2023 à 15:00, Cédric Damioli a écrit : > > Hi, > > Following and according to last weeks' discussions, it seems > that the general consensus would be to retire 2.1 (too old to > be maintained) and 3.0 (too alpha to be maintained), and keep > 2.x around for now. > > If I try to summarize what have been said, refocusing on a > single product would give the project a chance to 1) provide a > clear upgrade path to existing 2.1 users and 2) gather renewed > interest. > For the still many existing 2.1 users, this would give a clear > signal that it's time to consider other options. > > It's now time to formally vote: > > [ ] +1 accept (retire and officially stop the maintenance of > 2.1/3.0 branches, only keeping 2.x) > [ ] -1 reject (explanation required) > > A minimum of 3 binding +1 votes and more binding +1 than > binding -1 are required to pass. > This vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > Best regards, > Cédric > --------------fpHaUALVnGaO3odhj6000J1G Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> +1<br> <br> Cédric<br> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 23/01/2024 à 17:25, Christofer Dutz a écrit :<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:HE1PR05MB31452E7434099CA66668E93DA2742@HE1PR05MB3145.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style>@font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}@font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}@font-face {font-family:Aptos; panose-1:2 11 0 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}@font-face {font-family:Consolas; panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;}span.E-MailFormatvorlage230 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:windowtext;}.MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt; mso-ligatures:none;}div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;}ol {margin-bottom:0cm;}ul {margin-bottom:0cm;}</style> <div class="WordSection1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Yeah … I also think that possibly making them read-only (and additionally prefixing them with a “retired/” prefix should be enough.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div id="mail-editor-reference-message-container"> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">Von: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">Cédric Damioli <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a><br> <b>Datum: </b>Freitag, 12. Januar 2024 um 20:48<br> <b>An: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a><br> <b>Betreff: </b>Re: AW: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Why should retired branches be deleted ?<br> Shouldn't they instead be somehow put in read-only state but kept available for anyone needing them ?<br> <br> My 2 cents,<br> Cédric<o:p></o:p></span></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Le 09/01/2024 à 14:40, Christofer Dutz a écrit :<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">So, I guess the deletion of the “retired” branches should probably be done by a PMC member. </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">I’m happy to help with migrating 2.3.x to git as soon as the old stuff is buried, if the project wants this to happen.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <div id="mail-editor-reference-message-container"> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">Von: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">Christofer Dutz <a href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true"><[email protected]></a><br> <b>Datum: </b>Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 um 20:25<br> <b>An: </b><a href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a> <a href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true"> <[email protected]></a><br> <b>Betreff: </b>AW: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">How about a Mexican style funeral party at Community Over Code? ;-)</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">Cocoon 2.1 was such a big part of my early IT carreer … </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <div id="mail-editor-reference-message-container"> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">Von: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">Cédric Damioli <a href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true"><[email protected]></a><br> <b>Datum: </b>Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 um 19:40<br> <b>An: </b><a href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a> <a href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true"> <[email protected]></a><br> <b>Betreff: </b>[RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The vote is now over and successful with 4 binding +1 and no -1 :</span><o:p></o:p></p> <ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="disc"> <li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Francesco Chicchiriccò</span><o:p></o:p></li> <li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Peter Hunsberger</span><o:p></o:p></li> <li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Jörg Heinicke </span><o:p></o:p></li> <li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Cédric Damioli </span><o:p></o:p></li> </ul> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The PMC is now tasked to do what is needed to effectively retire 2.1/3.0.<br> <br> As discussed before, it's now time for volunteers to step up to do whatever is needed to actively maintain a now-refocused Cocoon project (migration to Git, dependencies upgrades, ...).<br> <br> Farewell, good old 2.1 :)<br> <br> Regards,<br> Cédric</span><o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Le 13/12/2023 à 15:00, Cédric Damioli a écrit :</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi,<br> <br> Following and according to last weeks' discussions, it seems that the general consensus would be to retire 2.1 (too old to be maintained) and 3.0 (too alpha to be maintained), and keep 2.x around for now.<br> <br> If I try to summarize what have been said, refocusing on a single product would give the project a chance to 1) provide a clear upgrade path to existing 2.1 users and 2) gather renewed interest.<br> For the still many existing 2.1 users, this would give a clear signal that it's time to consider other options.<br> <br> It's now time to formally vote:<br> <br> [ ] +1 accept (retire and officially stop the maintenance of 2.1/3.0 branches, only keeping 2.x)<br> [ ] -1 reject </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1D1D1D" lang="EN-US">(explanation required)</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1D1D1D" lang="EN-US">A minimum of 3 binding +1 votes and more binding +1 than binding -1 are required to pass.<br> This vote will be open for at least 72 hours.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-variant-caps:normal;orphans:auto;text-align:start;widows:auto;word-spacing:0px"> <span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1D1D1D" lang="EN-US">Best regards,<br> Cédric</span><o:p></o:p></p> </blockquote> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------fpHaUALVnGaO3odhj6000J1G--