AW: AW: AW: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x
Christofer Dutz <[email protected]> Tue, 23 Jan 2024 16:54:47 +0000
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--_000_HE1PR05MB314512CC6DACFE1505AD9AC7A2742HE1PR05MB3145eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Possibly worth discussing if it=92s easier to port to Git and do that then = =85 or if better done in SVN =85 I guess the final discussion Git vs. SVN s= till needs to formally be done, right? Chris Von: C=E9dric Damioli <[email protected]> Datum: Dienstag, 23. Januar 2024 um 17:30 An: [email protected] <[email protected]> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x +1 C=E9dric Le 23/01/2024 =E0 17:25, Christofer Dutz a =E9crit : Yeah =85 I also think that possibly making them read-only (and additionally= prefixing them with a =93retired/=94 prefix should be enough. Chris Von: C=E9dric Damioli <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> Datum: Freitag, 12. Januar 2024 um 20:48 An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected].= org><mailto:[email protected]> Betreff: Re: AW: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x Why should retired branches be deleted ? Shouldn't they instead be somehow put in read-only state but kept available= for anyone needing them ? My 2 cents, C=E9dric Le 09/01/2024 =E0 14:40, Christofer Dutz a =E9crit : So, I guess the deletion of the =93retired=94 branches should probably be d= one by a PMC member. I=92m happy to help with migrating 2.3.x to git as soon as the old stuff is= buried, if the project wants this to happen. Chris Von: Christofer Dutz <[email protected]><mailto:christofer.dutz@c-w= are.de> Datum: Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 um 20:25 An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected].= org><mailto:[email protected]> Betreff: AW: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x How about a Mexican style funeral party at Community Over Code? ;-) Cocoon 2.1 was such a big part of my early IT carreer =85 Chris Von: C=E9dric Damioli <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> Datum: Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 um 19:40 An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected].= org><mailto:[email protected]> Betreff: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x The vote is now over and successful with 4 binding +1 and no -1 : * Francesco Chicchiricc=F2 * Peter Hunsberger * J=F6rg Heinicke * C=E9dric Damioli The PMC is now tasked to do what is needed to effectively retire 2.1/3.0. As discussed before, it's now time for volunteers to step up to do whatever= is needed to actively maintain a now-refocused Cocoon project (migration t= o Git, dependencies upgrades, ...). Farewell, good old 2.1 :) Regards, C=E9dric Le 13/12/2023 =E0 15:00, C=E9dric Damioli a =E9crit : Hi, Following and according to last weeks' discussions, it seems that the gener= al consensus would be to retire 2.1 (too old to be maintained) and 3.0 (too= alpha to be maintained), and keep 2.x around for now. If I try to summarize what have been said, refocusing on a single product w= ould give the project a chance to 1) provide a clear upgrade path to existi= ng 2.1 users and 2) gather renewed interest. For the still many existing 2.1 users, this would give a clear signal that = it's time to consider other options. It's now time to formally vote: [ ] +1 accept (retire and officially stop the maintenance of 2.1/3.0 branch= es, only keeping 2.x) [ ] -1 reject (explanation required) A minimum of 3 binding +1 votes and more binding +1 than binding -1 are req= uired to pass. This vote will be open for at least 72 hours. 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Januar 2024 um 17:30<br> <b>An: </b>[email protected] <[email protected]><br> <b>Betreff: </b>Re: AW: AW: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x<o:p>= </o:p></span></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s= ize:11.0pt">+1<br> <br> C=E9dric<o:p></o:p></span></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Le 23/01/2024 =E0 1= 7:25, Christofer Dutz a =E9crit :<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Yeah= =85 I also think that possibly making them read-only (and additionally pre= fixing them with a =93retired/=94 prefix should be enough.</span><o:p></o:p= ></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbs= p;</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Chri= s</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbs= p;</span><o:p></o:p></p> <div id=3D"mail-editor-reference-message-container"> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style=3D"fon= t-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">Von: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sa= ns-serif;color:black">C=E9dric Damioli <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a><br> <b>Datum: </b>Freitag, 12. Januar 2024 um 20:48<br> <b>An: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</= a> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"> <[email protected]></a><br> <b>Betreff: </b>Re: AW: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x</span><o= :p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s= ize:11.0pt">Why should retired branches be deleted ?<br> Shouldn't they instead be somehow put in read-only state but kept available= for anyone needing them ?<br> <br> My 2 cents,<br> C=E9dric</span><o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Le 09/01/2024 =E0 1= 4:40, Christofer Dutz a =E9crit :</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">So, = I guess the deletion of the =93retired=94 branches should probably be done = by a PMC member. </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbs= p;</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">I=92= m happy to help with migrating 2.3.x to git as soon as the old stuff is bur= ied, if the project wants this to happen.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbs= p;</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Chri= s</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbs= p;</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbs= p;</span><o:p></o:p></p> <div id=3D"mail-editor-reference-message-container"> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style=3D"fon= t-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">Von: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sa= ns-serif;color:black">Christofer Dutz <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]&= gt;</a><br> <b>Datum: </b>Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 um 20:25<br> <b>An: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</= a> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"> <[email protected]></a><br> <b>Betreff: </b>AW: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x</span><o:p><= /o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">How = about a Mexican style funeral party at Community Over Code? ;-)</span><o:p>= </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Coco= on 2.1 was such a big part of my early IT carreer =85 </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbs= p;</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Chri= s</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">&nbs= p;</span><o:p></o:p></p> <div id=3D"mail-editor-reference-message-container"> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style=3D"fon= t-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">Von: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sa= ns-serif;color:black">C=E9dric Damioli <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a><br> <b>Datum: </b>Montag, 18. Dezember 2023 um 19:40<br> <b>An: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</= a> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"> <[email protected]></a><br> <b>Betreff: </b>[RESULT][VOTE] Retire 2.1/3.0 and keep 2.x</span><o:p></o:p= ></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s= ize:11.0pt">The vote is now over and successful with 4 binding +1 and no -1= :</span><o:p></o:p></p> <ul style=3D"margin-top:0cm" type=3D"disc"> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style=3D"fo= nt-size:11.0pt">Francesco Chicchiricc=F2</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=3D= "MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0= pt">Peter Hunsberger</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D= "mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">J=F6rg Heinicke </span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-list:l0 level1 = lfo1"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">C=E9dric Damioli </span><o:p></o:p></li></ul> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s= ize:11.0pt">The PMC is now tasked to do what is needed to effectively retir= e 2.1/3.0.<br> <br> As discussed before, it's now time for volunteers to step up to do whatever= is needed to actively maintain a now-refocused Cocoon project (migration t= o Git, dependencies upgrades, ...).<br> <br> Farewell, good old 2.1 :)<br> <br> Regards,<br> C=E9dric</span><o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Le 13/12/2023 =E0 1= 5:00, C=E9dric Damioli a =E9crit :</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s= ize:11.0pt">Hi,<br> <br> Following and according to last weeks' discussions, it seems that the gener= al consensus would be to retire 2.1 (too old to be maintained) and 3.0 (too= alpha to be maintained), and keep 2.x around for now.<br> <br> If I try to summarize what have been said, refocusing on a single product w= ould give the project a chance to 1) provide a clear upgrade path to existi= ng 2.1 users and 2) gather renewed interest.<br> For the still many existing 2.1 users, this would give a clear signal that = it's time to consider other options.<br> <br> It's now time to formally vote:<br> <br> [ ] +1 accept (retire and officially stop the maintenance of 2.1/3.0 branch= es, only keeping 2.x)<br> [ ] -1 reject </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#= 1D1D1D">(explanation required)</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1D1D1D">A minimum of 3 binding +1 votes and more binding +1 than binding = -1 are required to pass.<br> This vote will be open for at least 72 hours.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"font-variant-caps:normal;orphans:auto;text-= align:start;widows:auto;word-spacing:0px"> <span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1D1D1D">Best regards,= <br> C=E9dric</span><o:p></o:p></p> </blockquote> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p><= /o:p></p> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></= span></p> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html> --_000_HE1PR05MB314512CC6DACFE1505AD9AC7A2742HE1PR05MB3145eurp_--