Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Move Apache Cocoon into the Apache Attic

Cédric Damioli <[email protected]> Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:30:53 +0200
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Hi,

Sadly, there's not enough motivated individuals to keep the project 
running as is.
When we ran a poll 10 months ago, very few people actually volunteered 
to help keeping Cocoon 2.3 alive, and the reality of these past 10 
months is that nobody has barely done anything to move forward.

Anyway, now that the Attic vote has passed, we have to move forward with 
the due process.

Cédric


Le 11/09/2024 à 13:27, Gabriel Gruber a écrit :
>
> >> Can you explain why you didn't via https://github.com/apache/cocoon ?
>
> Hmm, good question actually. I wasn’t aware that the PR functionality 
> was actually really used to add enhancements to the project and I 
> always felt a little bit lost with the formal/administrative rules to 
> get patches to the project, without being an official committer.
>
> Anyway I would be willing to add all necessary changes to make cocoon 
> compatible with spring 5+ in a PR
>
> Cheerio,
>
> Gabriel
>
> *From: *Torsten Curdt <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 11. September 2024 at 10:59
> *To: *[email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Move Apache Cocoon into the Apache Attic
>
>     It is sad, to let such a powerful project die. Having said that,
>     we are using it still in production and trying to apply security
>     patches on our own fork to make it compatible with newer versions
>     of spring and java.
>
>     If the project would continue on github, I can just stress again
>     that I would be very happy to participate and share all our patches.
>
>
> Can you explain why you didn't via https://github.com/apache/cocoon ?
>
> Just trying to understand whether github would really make a difference.
>
> While I am still +1 for the attic (because I don't see anyone working 
> on Cocoon in any form),
> it feels a little sad if there are individually maintained forks that 
> could as well be part of the project.
>
> cheers,
> Torsten
>

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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    Sadly, there's not enough motivated individuals to keep the project
    running as is.<br>
    When we ran a poll 10 months ago, very few people actually
    volunteered to help keeping Cocoon 2.3 alive, and the reality of
    these past 10 months is that nobody has barely done anything to move
    forward.<br>
    <br>
    Anyway, now that the Attic vote has passed, we have to move forward
    with the due process.<br>
    <br>
    Cédric<br>
    <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 11/09/2024 à 13:27, Gabriel Gruber a
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              </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Can you explain why
                you didn't via <a
                  href="https://github.com/apache/cocoon"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/apache/cocoon</a>
                ?</span><span
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hmm,
            good question actually. I wasn’t aware that the PR
            functionality was actually really used to add enhancements
            to the project and I always felt a little bit lost with the
            formal/administrative rules to get patches to the project,
            without being an official committer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Anyway
            I would be willing to add all necessary changes to make
            cocoon compatible with spring 5+ in a PR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Cheerio,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Gabriel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                  Curdt <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a><br>
                  <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 11. September 2024 at 10:59<br>
                  <b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a><br>
                  <b>Subject: </b>Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Move Apache
                  Cocoon into the Apache Attic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">It is sad, to let
                          such a powerful project die. Having said that,
                          we are using it still in production and trying
                          to apply security patches on our own fork to
                          make it compatible with newer versions of
                          spring and java.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">If the project would
                          continue on github, I can just stress again
                          that I would be very happy to participate and
                          share all our patches.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
                      Can you explain why you didn't via <a
                        href="https://github.com/apache/cocoon"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/apache/cocoon</a>
                      ?<br>
                      <br>
                      Just trying to understand whether github would
                      really make a difference.<br>
                      <br>
                      While I am still +1 for the attic (because I don't
                      see anyone working on Cocoon in any form),<br>
                      it feels a little sad if there are individually
                      maintained forks that could as well be part of the
                      project.<br>
                      <br>
                      cheers,<br>
                      Torsten<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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