Re: AW: AW: [RESULT] [VOTE] Move Apache Cocoon into the Apache Attic

Anyone?

On 2024/09/28 14:31:37 Christofer Dutz wrote:
> Sooo =E2=80=A6 who=E2=80=99s adding the resolution to the next board meetin=
g=E2=80=99s agenda?
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> Chris
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> Von: Christofer Dutz <[email protected]>
> Datum: Samstag, 14. September 2024 um 11:01
> An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Betreff: AW: AW: [RESULT] [VOTE] Move Apache Cocoon into the Apache Attic
> Well, I guess this is sort of the issue we are facing here. There are some =
people that like and still use cocoon and would like others to clean up stuff.
> But so far, I have not really heard anyone actually willing to do the work.=
 If there=E2=80=99s nobody willing to do the work, then the project can=E2=80=
=99t continue.
> That=E2=80=99s as simple as it can get.
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> I did the work to clean up the build, to make building releasing etc. simpl=
er in the hope that would re-engage people, but it seems that did not work.
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> I thought I had heard from one of the PMC members that he also maintains a =
private fork. But that might have been me mixing up things.
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> Chris
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> Von: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Datum: Freitag, 13. September 2024 um 17:46
> An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: AW: [RESULT] [VOTE] Move Apache Cocoon into the Apache Attic
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> Dspace (prior to version 7) used Cocoon 2.2, and enhanced its functionality=
, for instance, integration with Lucene SOLR. Look for the XMLUI section avai=
lable from:
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> https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/releases/tag/dspace-6.4
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> Release Notes:
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> https://wiki.lyrasis.org/display/DSDOC6x
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> I always continued to use Cocoon version 2.1x, and am hoping to use LLMs to=
 help me refactor some of its code. I am not a JAVA developer. There were a f=
ew old code samples many (many years) ago adding some java classes, which I b=
elieve were never fully integrated into 2.13.
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> I still love 2.1x, and would like to see better html parser cleanup than js=
oup/niko, hardening security issues, and wow, if the python integrator packag=
e could ever be upgraded, that would tie in nicely with the wide use of pytho=
n language.
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> Cocoon pipelines are awesome.
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> Dan
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> On 2024-09-13 8:15 a.m., C=C3=A9dric Damioli wrote:
> Do you think there exist "multiple" forks ?
> I'm now aware of Gabriel's but are there any others ?
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> C=C3=A9dric
> Le 13/09/2024 =C3=A0 15:58, Christofer Dutz a =C3=A9crit :
> It does seem as if multiple people claimed to still be using Cocoon, but ma=
intaining their own forks.
> Why not bring exactly this back to the upstream project and join forces in =
maintaining it?
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> Chris
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> Von: C=C3=A9dric Damioli <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> Datum: Donnerstag, 12. September 2024 um 19:31
> An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected].=
org><mailto:[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Move Apache Cocoon into the Apache Attic
> Hi,
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> Sadly, there's not enough motivated individuals to keep the project running=
 as is.
> When we ran a poll 10 months ago, very few people actually volunteered to h=
elp keeping Cocoon 2.3 alive, and the reality of these past 10 months is that=
 nobody has barely done anything to move forward.
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> Anyway, now that the Attic vote has passed, we have to move forward with th=
e due process.
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> C=C3=A9dric
> Le 11/09/2024 =C3=A0 13:27, Gabriel Gruber a =C3=A9crit :
> >> Can you explain why you didn't via https://github.com/apache/cocoon ?
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> Hmm, good question actually. I wasn=E2=80=99t aware that the PR functionali=
ty was actually really used to add enhancements to the project and I always f=
elt a little bit lost with the formal/administrative rules to get patches to =
the project, without being an official committer.
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> Anyway I would be willing to add all necessary changes to make cocoon compa=
tible with spring 5+ in a PR
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> Cheerio,
> Gabriel
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> From: Torsten Curdt <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, 11. September 2024 at 10:59
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected].=
org><mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Move Apache Cocoon into the Apache Attic
> It is sad, to let such a powerful project die. Having said that, we are usi=
ng it still in production and trying to apply security patches on our own for=
k to make it compatible with newer versions of spring and java.
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> If the project would continue on github, I can just stress again that I wou=
ld be very happy to participate and share all our patches.
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> Can you explain why you didn't via https://github.com/apache/cocoon ?
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> Just trying to understand whether github would really make a difference.
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> While I am still +1 for the attic (because I don't see anyone working on Co=
coon in any form),
> it feels a little sad if there are individually maintained forks that could=
 as well be part of the project.
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> cheers,
> Torsten
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