Re: The limits of XML mean the limits of my data world

Jim DeLaHunt <[email protected]>
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On 2022-05-29 06:56, Roger L Costello wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> The philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein wrote:
>
> "The limits of my language mean the limits of my world."

Using Wittgenstein's ideas is a lovely thing to do, but are you sure you 
are understanding what he was trying to express? Here is one 
explanation: 
<https://www.quora.com/%E2%80%9CThe-limits-of-my-language-mean-the-limits-of-my-world-%E2%80%9D-Is-Wittgenstein-correct>. 
In particular, "world" means more like “the totality of facts” than 
"everything which has value".

I understand Wittgenstein to imply something like, "The limits of the 
XML language mean the limits of the set of XML documents."

> XML is a language.
>
> What are the limits of XML?
>
> Would you provide an example of something that cannot be expressed in XML but can be expressed in some other data language, please?

Why did you insert the word "data" in there? Why not say, "some other 
language"? It seems like you are changing the terms of Wittgenstein's 
argument.

Wittgenstein's point is that language can express a set of things, but 
there are other things which also matter which language cannot express.

Hum the tune to Beethoven's 9th Symphony, the choral part at the end 
(also known as the EU anthem): "Freude, schöner Götterfunken, Tochter 
aus Elisium"…  That sound you just made? That is something which matters 
which cannot be expressed in XML.

>
> /Roger
>
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