Re: The limits of XML mean the limits of my data world
Dimitre Novatchev <[email protected]>
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The smell of: cheese roses :) On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 12:49 PM Jim DeLaHunt <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2022-05-29 06:56, Roger L Costello wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > The philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein wrote: > > "The limits of my language mean the limits of my world." > > Using Wittgenstein's ideas is a lovely thing to do, but are you sure you > are understanding what he was trying to express? Here is one explanation: > <https://www.quora.com/%E2%80%9CThe-limits-of-my-language-mean-the-limits-of-my-world-%E2%80%9D-Is-Wittgenstein-correct> > <https://www.quora.com/%E2%80%9CThe-limits-of-my-language-mean-the-limits-of-my-world-%E2%80%9D-Is-Wittgenstein-correct>. > In particular, "world" means more like “the totality of facts” than > "everything which has value". > > I understand Wittgenstein to imply something like, "The limits of the XML > language mean the limits of the set of XML documents." > > XML is a language. > > What are the limits of XML? > > Would you provide an example of something that cannot be expressed in XML but can be expressed in some other data language, please? > > Why did you insert the word "data" in there? Why not say, "some other > language"? It seems like you are changing the terms of Wittgenstein's > argument. > > Wittgenstein's point is that language can express a set of things, but > there are other things which also matter which language cannot express. > > Hum the tune to Beethoven's 9th Symphony, the choral part at the end (also > known as the EU anthem): "Freude, schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus > Elisium"… That sound you just made? That is something which matters which > cannot be expressed in XML. > > /Roger > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS > to support XML implementation and development. To minimize > spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. > > [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ > Or unsubscribe: [email protected] > subscribe: [email protected] > List archive: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php > > -- > . --Jim DeLaHunt, [email protected] http://blog.jdlh.com/ (http://jdlh.com/) > multilingual websites consultant > > 2201-1000 Beach Ave, Vancouver BC V6E 4M2, Canada > Canada mobile +1-604-376-8953 > > -- Cheers, Dimitre Novatchev --------------------------------------- Truly great madness cannot be achieved without significant intelligence. --------------------------------------- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk ------------------------------------- Never fight an inanimate object ------------------------------------- To avoid situations in which you might make mistakes may be the biggest mistake of all ------------------------------------ Quality means doing it right when no one is looking. ------------------------------------- You've achieved success in your field when you don't know whether what you're doing is work or play ------------------------------------- To achieve the impossible dream, try going to sleep. ------------------------------------- Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. ------------------------------------- Typing monkeys will write all Shakespeare's works in 200yrs.Will they write all patents, too? :) ------------------------------------- Sanity is madness put to good use. ------------------------------------- I finally figured out the only reason to be alive is to enjoy it.