Re: The limits of XML mean the limits of my data world

Dimitre Novatchev <[email protected]>
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  roses

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On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 12:49 PM Jim DeLaHunt <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2022-05-29 06:56, Roger L Costello wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> The philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein wrote:
>
> "The limits of my language mean the limits of my world."
>
> Using Wittgenstein's ideas is a lovely thing to do, but are you sure you
> are understanding what he was trying to express? Here is one explanation:
> <https://www.quora.com/%E2%80%9CThe-limits-of-my-language-mean-the-limits-of-my-world-%E2%80%9D-Is-Wittgenstein-correct>
> <https://www.quora.com/%E2%80%9CThe-limits-of-my-language-mean-the-limits-of-my-world-%E2%80%9D-Is-Wittgenstein-correct>.
> In particular, "world" means more like “the totality of facts” than
> "everything which has value".
>
> I understand Wittgenstein to imply something like, "The limits of the XML
> language mean the limits of the set of XML documents."
>
> XML is a language.
>
> What are the limits of XML?
>
> Would you provide an example of something that cannot be expressed in XML but can be expressed in some other data language, please?
>
> Why did you insert the word "data" in there? Why not say, "some other
> language"? It seems like you are changing the terms of Wittgenstein's
> argument.
>
> Wittgenstein's point is that language can express a set of things, but
> there are other things which also matter which language cannot express.
>
> Hum the tune to Beethoven's 9th Symphony, the choral part at the end (also
> known as the EU anthem): "Freude, schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus
> Elisium"…  That sound you just made? That is something which matters which
> cannot be expressed in XML.
>
> /Roger
>
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