Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Duane Pauls <[email protected]> Mon, 10 Aug 2020 12:16:54 -0400
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--0000000000002463c205ac884905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we do not have any copyright or trademark on the term =E2=80=9CEvent Mesh=E2=80=9D. I= t=E2=80=99s true it is something our products are closely aligned with, but it is an industry term that has been adopted by Gartner and is gaining traction in the industry. Solace does not oppose the term being used in other applicable products or projects. +1 (non-binding) on the idea. Cheers, Duane On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 11:51 AM heng du <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi @Michael > > Thanks for your advice. As far as I know, Solace doesn't have a product > called Eventmesh, They're just using that name to promote their PubSub > platform. > > But in order not to cause trouble in the future, I also ask guys of Apach= e > Brand to help check whether this name is appropriate. For us, we've been > using the name EventMesh for a long time, and we want to keep it so that > users can get better product positioning from the name. > > And base on this document[1], we searched in the U.S. Patent Office[2] an= d > found nothing inappropriate. > > [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html > [2] https://www.uspto.gov/trademark > > Thanks > Henry > > Michael Andr=C3=A9 Pearce <[email protected]> =E4=BA=8E= 2020=E5=B9=B48=E6=9C=886=E6=97=A5=E5=91=A8=E5=9B=9B > =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=883:33=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > >> Hi >> >> Im PMC member from ActiveMQ project. >> I like the idea, nice. +1 on it as a project idea. >> >> I am though a little -1 on the name of the project, I would recommend >> that an alternative name for the project is found as there maybe a confl= ict >> in rights ability to copyright and trademark to it. >> >> I=E2=80=99m aware there is a commercial vendor messaging company called = Solace, >> where they use and market their product with heavy use of the name Event >> Mesh, you can see this just googling event mesh, brings back many hits t= o >> their products, marketing material and other records, so they may hold a >> heavy claim to this name. >> >> Best >> Michael >> >> > On 4 Aug 2020, at 18:33, Kevin Ratnasekera <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Easen, >> > >> > +1, Having worked in a similar domain so far, I have to say this is an >> > interesting project. If you are seeking new mentors, please consider >> adding >> > me as a mentor to the project. >> > >> > Regards >> > Kevin >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM Eason Chen <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Good time of the time to all! >> >> >> >> >> >> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion, >> >> comments and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its >> >> acceptance into Incubator. >> >> >> >> >> >> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were >> behind >> >> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in >> China)as >> >> the community is literally thriving almost 3 years after the >> graduation. >> >> >> >> >> >> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just >> started >> >> in WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the communi= ty >> >> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways >> of >> >> doing things. Heng Du (from RocketMQ PMC) is very instrumental in >> >> tirelessly helping this group to learn what it means to be a truly op= en >> >> source project. >> >> >> >> >> >> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will >> see >> >> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache >> ecosystem >> >> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community. >> >> >> >> >> >> The project's proposal is available at [1]. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide! >> >> >> >> >> >> With best regards, >> >> >> >> Eason Chen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [1] >> >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/EventMeshProposal >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> --0000000000002463c205ac884905 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">I work for Solace and have consulted inte= rnally to confirm that we do not have any copyright or trademark on the ter= m =E2=80=9CEvent Mesh=E2=80=9D. It=E2=80=99s true it is something our produ= cts are closely aligned with, but it is an industry term that has been adop= ted by Gartner and is gaining traction in the industry. Solace does not opp= ose the term being used in other applicable products or projects.<div><br><= /div><div>+1 (non-binding) on the idea.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers= ,</div><div>Duane</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr= " class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 11:51 AM heng du <<a href= =3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote= :<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.= 8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"lt= r"><div>Hi @Michael<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your advice. As= far as I know, Solace=C2=A0doesn't have a product called Eventmesh, Th= ey're just using that name to promote their PubSub platform.</div><div>= <br></div><div>But in order not to cause trouble in the future, I also ask = guys of Apache Brand to help check whether this name is appropriate. For us= , we've been using the name EventMesh for a long time, and we want to k= eep it so that users can get better product positioning from the name.<br><= /div><div><br></div><div>And=C2=A0base on this document[1], we searched in = the U.S. Patent Office[2] and found nothing inappropriate.</div><div><br></= div><div>[1]=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html= " target=3D"_blank">https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html</a></div= ><div>[2]=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.uspto.gov/trademark" target=3D"_blank= ">https://www.uspto.gov/trademark</a></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div>= <div>Henry</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class= =3D"gmail_attr">Michael Andr=C3=A9 Pearce <[email protected]= nvalid> =E4=BA=8E2020=E5=B9=B48=E6=9C=886=E6=97=A5=E5=91=A8=E5=9B=9B =E4= =B8=8B=E5=8D=883:33=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A<br></div><blockquote class= =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg= b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi<br> <br> Im PMC member from ActiveMQ project.<br> I like the idea, nice. +1 on it as a project idea.<br> <br> I am though a little -1 on the name of the project, I would recommend that = an alternative name for the project is found as there maybe a conflict in r= ights ability to copyright and trademark to it.<br> <br> I=E2=80=99m aware there is a commercial vendor messaging company called Sol= ace, where they use and market their product with heavy use of the name Eve= nt Mesh, you can see this just googling event mesh, brings back many hits t= o their products, marketing material and other records, so they may hold a = heavy claim to this name.<br> <br> Best<br> Michael<br> <br> > On 4 Aug 2020, at 18:33, Kevin Ratnasekera <<a href=3D"mailto:djkev= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote= :<br> > <br> > Hi Easen,<br> > <br> > +1, Having worked in a similar domain so far, I have to say this is an= <br> > interesting project. If you are seeking new mentors, please consider a= dding<br> > me as a mentor to the project.<br> > <br> > Regards<br> > Kevin<br> > <br> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM Eason Chen <<a href=3D"mailto:daerdu= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> > <br> >> Good time of the time to all!<br> >> <br> >> <br> >> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discuss= ion,<br> >> comments and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of = its<br> >> acceptance into Incubator.<br> >> <br> >> <br> >> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them = were behind<br> >> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in= China)as<br> >> the community is literally thriving almost 3 years after the gradu= ation.<br> >> <br> >> <br> >> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just s= tarted<br> >> in WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the = community<br> >> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache w= ays of<br> >> doing things. Heng Du (from RocketMQ PMC) is very instrumental in<= br> >> tirelessly helping this group to learn what it means to be a truly= open<br> >> source project.<br> >> <br> >> <br> >> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you w= ill see<br> >> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache eco= system<br> >> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community= .<br> >> <br> >> <br> >> The project's proposal is available at [1].<br> >> <br> >> <br> >> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide= !<br> >> <br> >> <br> >> &nbsp;With best regards,<br> >> <br> >> &nbsp;Eason Chen<br> >> <br> >> <br> >> <br> >> [1]<br> >> <a href=3D"https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/E= ventMeshProposal" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://cwiki.apache= .org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/EventMeshProposal</a><br> <br> <br> ---------------------------------------------------------------------<br> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= che.org" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> For additional commands, e-mail: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= pache.org" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> <br> </blockquote></div> </blockquote></div></div> --0000000000002463c205ac884905--