Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal

heng du <[email protected]> Fri, 14 Aug 2020 15:15:56 +0800
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Thanks for @Duane's reply.

Duane Pauls <[email protected]> =E4=BA=8E2020=E5=B9=B48=E6=9C=8811=E6=
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> I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we do not
> have any copyright or trademark on the term =E2=80=9CEvent Mesh=E2=80=9D.=
 It=E2=80=99s true it is
> something our products are closely aligned with, but it is an industry te=
rm
> that has been adopted by Gartner and is gaining traction in the industry.
> Solace does not oppose the term being used in other applicable products o=
r
> projects.
>
> +1 (non-binding) on the idea.
>
> Cheers,
> Duane
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 11:51 AM heng du <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi @Michael
> >
> > Thanks for your advice. As far as I know, Solace doesn't have a product
> > called Eventmesh, They're just using that name to promote their PubSub
> > platform.
> >
> > But in order not to cause trouble in the future, I also ask guys of
> Apache
> > Brand to help check whether this name is appropriate. For us, we've bee=
n
> > using the name EventMesh for a long time, and we want to keep it so tha=
t
> > users can get better product positioning from the name.
> >
> > And base on this document[1], we searched in the U.S. Patent Office[2]
> and
> > found nothing inappropriate.
> >
> > [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
> > [2] https://www.uspto.gov/trademark
> >
> > Thanks
> > Henry
> >
> > Michael Andr=C3=A9 Pearce <[email protected]> =E4=BA=
=8E2020=E5=B9=B48=E6=9C=886=E6=97=A5=E5=91=A8=E5=9B=9B
> > =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=883:33=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Im PMC member from ActiveMQ project.
> >> I like the idea, nice. +1 on it as a project idea.
> >>
> >> I am though a little -1 on the name of the project, I would recommend
> >> that an alternative name for the project is found as there maybe a
> conflict
> >> in rights ability to copyright and trademark to it.
> >>
> >> I=E2=80=99m aware there is a commercial vendor messaging company calle=
d Solace,
> >> where they use and market their product with heavy use of the name Eve=
nt
> >> Mesh, you can see this just googling event mesh, brings back many hits
> to
> >> their products, marketing material and other records, so they may hold=
 a
> >> heavy claim to this name.
> >>
> >> Best
> >> Michael
> >>
> >> > On 4 Aug 2020, at 18:33, Kevin Ratnasekera <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Easen,
> >> >
> >> > +1, Having worked in a similar domain so far, I have to say this is =
an
> >> > interesting project. If you are seeking new mentors, please consider
> >> adding
> >> > me as a mentor to the project.
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> > Kevin
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM Eason Chen <[email protected]> wrote=
:
> >> >
> >> >> Good time of the time to all!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
> >> >> comments and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of i=
ts
> >> >> acceptance into Incubator.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
> >> behind
> >> >> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
> >> China)as
> >> >> the community is literally thriving almost 3 years after the
> >> graduation.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
> >> started
> >> >> in WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the
> community
> >> >> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache wa=
ys
> >> of
> >> >> doing things. Heng Du (from RocketMQ PMC) is very instrumental in
> >> >> tirelessly helping this group to learn what it means to be a truly
> open
> >> >> source project.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you wi=
ll
> >> see
> >> >> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
> >> ecosystem
> >> >> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> The project's proposal is available at [1].
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> &nbsp;With best regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> &nbsp;Eason Chen
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> [1]
> >> >>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/EventMeshProposa=
l
> >>
> >>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for=C2=A0@Duane&#39;s reply.</div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Duane Pauls &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; =E4=BA=8E20=
20=E5=B9=B48=E6=9C=8811=E6=97=A5=E5=91=A8=E4=BA=8C =E4=B8=8A=E5=8D=8812:25=
=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex">I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that=
 we do not<br>
have any copyright or trademark on the term =E2=80=9CEvent Mesh=E2=80=9D. I=
t=E2=80=99s true it is<br>
something our products are closely aligned with, but it is an industry term=
<br>
that has been adopted by Gartner and is gaining traction in the industry.<b=
r>
Solace does not oppose the term being used in other applicable products or<=
br>
projects.<br>
<br>
+1 (non-binding) on the idea.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Duane<br>
<br>
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 11:51 AM heng du &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:duhengforever=
@apache.org" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Hi @Michael<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks for your advice. As far as I know, Solace doesn&#39;t have a pr=
oduct<br>
&gt; called Eventmesh, They&#39;re just using that name to promote their Pu=
bSub<br>
&gt; platform.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; But in order not to cause trouble in the future, I also ask guys of Ap=
ache<br>
&gt; Brand to help check whether this name is appropriate. For us, we&#39;v=
e been<br>
&gt; using the name EventMesh for a long time, and we want to keep it so th=
at<br>
&gt; users can get better product positioning from the name.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; And base on this document[1], we searched in the U.S. Patent Office[2]=
 and<br>
&gt; found nothing inappropriate.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; [1] <a href=3D"https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html" rel=3D"=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.htm=
l</a><br>
&gt; [2] <a href=3D"https://www.uspto.gov/trademark" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank">https://www.uspto.gov/trademark</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks<br>
&gt; Henry<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Michael Andr=C3=A9 Pearce &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.andre.pearce@m=
e.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>.invalid&gt; =E4=BA=
=8E2020=E5=B9=B48=E6=9C=886=E6=97=A5=E5=91=A8=E5=9B=9B<br>
&gt; =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=883:33=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Hi<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Im PMC member from ActiveMQ project.<br>
&gt;&gt; I like the idea, nice. +1 on it as a project idea.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I am though a little -1 on the name of the project, I would recomm=
end<br>
&gt;&gt; that an alternative name for the project is found as there maybe a=
 conflict<br>
&gt;&gt; in rights ability to copyright and trademark to it.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I=E2=80=99m aware there is a commercial vendor messaging company c=
alled Solace,<br>
&gt;&gt; where they use and market their product with heavy use of the name=
 Event<br>
&gt;&gt; Mesh, you can see this just googling event mesh, brings back many =
hits to<br>
&gt;&gt; their products, marketing material and other records, so they may =
hold a<br>
&gt;&gt; heavy claim to this name.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Best<br>
&gt;&gt; Michael<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; On 4 Aug 2020, at 18:33, Kevin Ratnasekera &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&=
gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Hi Easen,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; +1, Having worked in a similar domain so far, I have to say t=
his is an<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; interesting project. If you are seeking new mentors, please c=
onsider<br>
&gt;&gt; adding<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; me as a mentor to the project.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Regards<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Kevin<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM Eason Chen &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Good time of the time to all!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I&#39;d like to bring this new interesting project for th=
e discussion,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; comments and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [=
VOTE] of its<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; acceptance into Incubator.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; People behind this project aren&#39;t new to Apache: some=
 of them were<br>
&gt;&gt; behind<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(espe=
cially in<br>
&gt;&gt; China)as<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the community is literally thriving almost 3 years after =
the<br>
&gt;&gt; graduation.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I have been involved a little bit with this project when =
it just<br>
&gt;&gt; started<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; in WeBank a few years ago. And I&#39;d like to emphasize =
that the community<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; however small it might look so far, has been aligned with=
 Apache ways<br>
&gt;&gt; of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; doing things. Heng Du (from RocketMQ PMC) is very instrum=
ental in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; tirelessly helping this group to learn what it means to b=
e a truly open<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; source project.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available.=
 As you will<br>
&gt;&gt; see<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of A=
pache<br>
&gt;&gt; ecosystem<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the =
community.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; The project&#39;s proposal is available at [1].<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Thank you very much for the feedback you&#39;re willing t=
o provide!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &amp;nbsp;With best regards,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &amp;nbsp;Eason Chen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; [1]<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/E=
ventMeshProposal" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://cwiki.apache=
.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/EventMeshProposal</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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