Re: Blink sets course to deprecate SVG animation
"James Churchman [email protected] [svg-developers]" <[email protected]> Mon, 4 May 2015 19:49:46 +0100
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--001a11c3c9e2982f8e051546065f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any thoughts / insights ? BR James On Friday, 1 May 2015, James Churchman <[email protected]> wrote: > Seems too much functionality not covered by other tec to remove it. Its not gained adoption mostly due to lack of IE support.. if IE gained support, then it's usage increased dramatically my guess is they would not remove it. Also what is the issue with going with a javascript implementation thats baked into the browser as is proposed. This keeps the C++ code clean but still allows SMIL animations in places where javascript is not allowed ( embedding images via css etc.. ) as its baked into the browser. > P.S. on an semi related note. Currently I adjust much of my svg in the browser using the basic dom interface of get and setting attributes, but this is all string based. > I was looking at "Animated properties" such as SVGAnimatedInteger and SVGAnimatedLength so i can directly use integers rather than generating and parsing strings all the time ( even tho i won't be using it to animate properties, just to get & set these ) > I can then just put elemNode.cx.baseVal.value rather than parseInt(elemNode.getAttribute("cx")) etc.. > Will these be removed with the ( possible ) removal of SMIL and do they have good cross browser support in recent browsers, even modern versions of IE ? > I could not find any mention of them on caniuse.com for example > James > > > > > On 1 May 2015 at 17:58, David Leunen [email protected] [svg-developers] = < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > The excellent Brian Britles summarize the story, and asks if he forgets something : > https://birtles.wordpress.com/2015/05/01/what-do-we-do-with-smil/ > > >=20 > ________________________________ > Posted by: David Leunen <[email protected]> > ________________________________ > Reply via web post =E2=80=A2 Reply to sender =E2=80=A2 Reply to group =E2= =80=A2 Start a New Topic =E2=80=A2 Messages in this topic (3) > ----- > To unsubscribe send a message to: [email protected] > -or- > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" > ---- > Visit Your Group --001a11c3c9e2982f8e051546065f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <head> <style type=3D"text/css"> <!-- /* start of attachment style */ .ygrp-photo-title{ clear: both; font-size: smaller; height: 15px; overflow: hidden; text-align: center; width: 75px; } div.ygrp-photo{ background-position: center; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-color: white; border: 1px solid black; height: 62px; width: 62px; } div.photo-title=20 a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div.photo-title a:visited { text-decoration: none;=20 } div.attach-table div.attach-row { clear: both; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div { float: left; /* margin: 2px;*/ } p { clear: both; padding: 15px 0 3px 0; overflow: hidden; } div.ygrp-file { width: 30px; valign: middle; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div div a { text-decoration: none; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div div span { font-weight: normal; } div.ygrp-file-title { font-weight: bold; } /* end of attachment style */ --> </style> </head> <html> <head> <style type=3D"text/css"> <!-- #ygrp-mkp { border: 1px solid #d8d8d8; font-family: Arial; margin: 10px 0; padding: 0 10px; } #ygrp-mkp hr { border: 1px solid #d8d8d8; } #ygrp-mkp #hd { color: #628c2a; font-size: 85%; font-weight: 700; line-height: 122%; margin: 10px 0; } #ygrp-mkp #ads { margin-bottom: 10px; } #ygrp-mkp .ad { padding: 0 0; } #ygrp-mkp .ad p { margin: 0; } #ygrp-mkp .ad a { color: #0000ff; text-decoration: none; } --> </style> </head> <body> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> Any thoughts / insights ? <br><br>BR<br><br>James<br><br>On Friday, 1 May 2= 015, James Churchman <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">jamesc= [email protected]</a>> wrote:<br>> Seems too much functionality not = covered by other tec to remove it. 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