Re: The AF war diary

Lars and Patrick,

Let's turn things around! Why don't you create a RDBMS application with some code and put it online. I would be curious to see the data schema and i would like to compare development time.

The invention of the automobile added nothing genuinely new to the life of people. Transport and mobility exist since the beginning of mankind and earlier. It is just much more convenient to use an automobile to transport people and goods from place A to place B.

Best,

Robert

Am 28.01.2011 um 02:24 schrieb Patrick Durusau:

> Lars,
> 
> I won't be at Emnekart 2011 either. 
> 
> So I would like to hear the answer as well!
> 
> BTW, unless and until the topic map community gets to where we can ask
> questions, even pointed ones, about each other's work and even topic
> maps, we aren't going anywhere quickly. 
> 
> Hope you are having a great evening!
> 
> Patrick
> 
> Aside to Lars: I suspect "semantic tools" didn't mean topic maps,
> although it could have. 
> 
> There are any number of text analysis tools that are commonly available
> but rarely used outside of analysis shops. Simply having a keyword in
> context concordance would be a real boon. Rapidly extracting terms for
> defined identifiers would speed up creation of uniform referencing.
> Expanding the alphabet soup with unofficial access to some veterans. Any
> number of things. 
> 
> Topic maps would enter much later, when it came time to integrate that
> information store with that held by the newspaper or with data obtained
> from other sources. Such as cross checking events with reportage in the
> New York Times, for example. (Although I would not use occurrences even
> there. I would prefer using associations so that NYT stories would also
> exist as topics in associations with their authors. To enable the
> spotting of patterns of authors on particular types of stories. Who
> might or might not have additional sources. 
> 
> All of that is just guessing based on what I would do with an even
> moderately financed effort to analyze the texts.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 23:30 +0100, Lars Heuer wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> While I tried to shut up and hesitate from commenting the Afghanistan
>> TM any further than I've said in [1], I saw Patrick's post [2] and
>> Are's post [3] and the comments to Patrick's post [4]
>> 
>> Well, you may see some frictions between these posts.
>> 
>> An exercise: Provide facts/questions/advantages which are solved by
>> <http://maiana.topicmapslab.de/u/efi/tm/wd2004> which cannot be solved
>> by <http://cryptome.net/afg-war-diary.sql.7z>.
>> 
>> The Emnekart 2011 entry about the Wikileaks Afghanistan War Log says:
>> 
>>    """
>>    [...]
>>    Publishers like Spiegel Online spent several months before the
>>    release, manually analyzing the data. With semantic tools this
>>    could have been much easier…
>>    [...]
>>    """
>> 
>> I won't attend Emnekart 2011 but I'd be interested why Der Spiegel
>> should have used Topic Maps.
>> 
>> [1]
>> <http://www.infoloom.com/pipermail/topicmapmail/2010q4/008550.html>
>> [2] <http://tm.durusau.net/?p=6922>
>> [3]
>> <http://everythingisasubject.blogspot.com/2011/01/emnekart-2011.html>
>> [4]
>> <http://tm.durusau.net/?p=6922&cpage=1#comment-5294>
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Lars
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