RE: RE: New version of TMCL Requirements, use cases and specification (Dmitry)
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4C0B2.43287E69 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 Thanks for the feedback and comments. =20 In the first example the intent was to epress that exactly and only the = roles described were allowed but in the second it is saying that these = two roles must be present BUT that other roles, either of the same type = or different types may be present.=20 =20 So in one sense it is about the cardinality of the roles but it is also = about the ability to have ANY other kind of role in there for which, = potentially, no additional constraints are defined. You could define it = as two roles that are non-optional and have a specific type and N roles = of N cardinality with no type constraint. But I think that is for the = standard to define, whereas the focus of the UC document is to illicit a = feel for the nature of the way topicmaps can be constrained. =20 So, I do not think you are wrong but the nature of this UC document is = not to capture the generic patterns but more to scope smaller idioms; = with that in mind I think the two cases are seperately valid. =20 regards,=20 =20 Graham ________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of Giovani Librelotto Sent: Mon 01/11/2004 20:28 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [tmcl-wg] RE: New version of TMCL Requirements, use cases and = specification (Dmitry) Hello there, In new version of TMCL Requirements and Use Cases <URL: http://www.jtc1sc34.org/repository/0548.htm>, section 4.1.1.U3 (Valid subject indicator), which is the difference between the items 'a' and = 'b'? For me, both define the cardinality of subject indicator, so it's the = same kind of constraint. Am I wrong? Best regards, ------------------------------------ Giovani Rubert Librelotto Ph.D. Student - Informatics Department Universidade do Minho Braga - Portugal [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: segunda-feira, 25 de Outubro de 2004 11:31 > To: [email protected] > Subject: tmcl-wg digest, Vol 1 #77 - 1 msg > > Send tmcl-wg mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.isotopicmaps.org/mailman/listinfo/tmcl-wg > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific than "Re: Contents of tmcl-wg digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. New version of TMCL Requirements, use cases and > specification (Dmitry) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > To: [email protected], [email protected] > From: Dmitry <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:14:53 -0400 > Subject: [tmcl-wg] New version of TMCL Requirements, use > cases and specification > > New version of TMCL Requirements and Use Cases > > http://www.jtc1sc34.org/repository/0548.htm > > and TMCL specification (first draft) > > http://www.jtc1sc34.org/repository/0549.htm > > from TMCL editors: Dmitry Bogachev, Graham Moore, and Mary Nishikawa, > > available for review and comments. > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > tmcl-wg mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.isotopicmaps.org/mailman/listinfo/tmcl-wg > > > End of tmcl-wg Digest ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4C0B2.43287E69 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">=0A= <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">=0A= <HTML>=0A= <HEAD>=0A= =0A= <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 6.5.7232.7">=0A= <TITLE>[tmcl-wg] RE: New version of TMCL Requirements, use cases and = specification (Dmitry)</TITLE>=0A= </HEAD>=0A= <BODY>=0A= <DIV id=3DidOWAReplyText22568 dir=3Dltr>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000 = size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the feedback and =0A= comments.</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In the first example the = intent was to =0A= epress that exactly and only the roles described were allowed but in the = second =0A= it is saying that these two roles must be present BUT that other roles, = either =0A= of the same type or different types may be present. </FONT></DIV>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So in one sense it is about = the cardinality =0A= of the roles but it is also about the ability to have ANY other kind of = role in =0A= there for which, potentially, no additional constraints are defined. You = could =0A= define it as two roles that are non-optional and have a specific type = and N =0A= roles of N cardinality with no type constraint. But I think that is = for the =0A= standard to define, whereas the focus of the UC document is to illicit a = feel =0A= for the nature of the way topicmaps can be constrained.</FONT></DIV>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So, I do not think you are = wrong but the =0A= nature of this UC document is not to capture the generic patterns = but more =0A= to scope smaller idioms; with that in mind I think the two cases are = seperately =0A= valid.</FONT></DIV>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>regards, </FONT></DIV>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham</FONT></DIV></DIV>=0A= <DIV dir=3Dltr><BR>=0A= <HR tabIndex=3D-1>=0A= <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> [email protected] = on behalf =0A= of Giovani Librelotto<BR><B>Sent:</B> Mon 01/11/2004 20:28<BR><B>To:</B> =0A= [email protected]<BR><B>Cc:</B> =0A= [email protected]<BR><B>Subject:</B> [tmcl-wg] RE: New version of = TMCL =0A= Requirements, use cases and specification (Dmitry)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>=0A= <DIV><BR>=0A= <P><FONT size=3D2>Hello there,<BR><BR>In new version of TMCL = Requirements and Use =0A= Cases <URL:<BR><A =0A= href=3D"http://www.jtc1sc34.org/repository/0548.htm">http://www.jtc1sc34.= org/repository/0548.htm</A>>, =0A= section 4.1.1.U3 (Valid<BR>subject indicator), which is the difference = between =0A= the items 'a' and 'b'?<BR>For me, both define the cardinality of subject =0A= indicator, so it's the same<BR>kind of constraint. Am I wrong?<BR>Best =0A= regards,<BR><BR>------------------------------------<BR>Giovani Rubert =0A= Librelotto<BR>Ph.D. Student - Informatics Department<BR>Universidade do =0A= Minho<BR>Braga - Portugal<BR>[email protected]<BR><BR><BR>> = -----Original =0A= Message-----<BR>> From: [email protected]<BR>> [<A =0A= href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">mailto:tmcl-wg-admin@isoto= picmaps.org</A>] =0A= On Behalf Of<BR>> [email protected]<BR>> Sent: =0A= segunda-feira, 25 de Outubro de 2004 11:31<BR>> To: =0A= [email protected]<BR>> Subject: tmcl-wg digest, Vol 1 #77 - 1 =0A= msg<BR>><BR>> Send tmcl-wg mailing list submissions to<BR>> =0A= [email protected]<BR>><BR>> = To =0A= subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>> =0A= <A =0A= href=3D"http://www.isotopicmaps.org/mailman/listinfo/tmcl-wg">http://www.= isotopicmaps.org/mailman/listinfo/tmcl-wg</A><BR>> =0A= or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>> =0A= = [email protected]<BR>><BR>> =0A= You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>> =0A= = [email protected]<BR>><BR>> =0A= When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more<BR>> = specific than =0A= "Re: Contents of tmcl-wg digest..."<BR>><BR>><BR>> Today's =0A= Topics:<BR>><BR>> 1. New version of TMCL = Requirements, =0A= use cases and<BR>> specification (Dmitry)<BR>><BR>> =0A= --__--__--<BR>><BR>> Message: 1<BR>> To: = [email protected], =0A= [email protected]<BR>> From: Dmitry = <[email protected]><BR>> =0A= Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:14:53 -0400<BR>> Subject: [tmcl-wg] New = version of =0A= TMCL Requirements, use<BR>> cases and specification<BR>><BR>> = New =0A= version of TMCL Requirements and Use Cases<BR>><BR>> <A =0A= href=3D"http://www.jtc1sc34.org/repository/0548.htm">http://www.jtc1sc34.= org/repository/0548.htm</A><BR>><BR>> =0A= and TMCL specification (first draft)<BR>><BR>> <A =0A= href=3D"http://www.jtc1sc34.org/repository/0549.htm">http://www.jtc1sc34.= org/repository/0549.htm</A><BR>><BR>> =0A= from TMCL editors: Dmitry Bogachev, Graham Moore, and Mary =0A= Nishikawa,<BR>><BR>> available for review and =0A= comments.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> --__--__--<BR>><BR>> =0A= _______________________________________________<BR>> tmcl-wg mailing =0A= list<BR>> [email protected]<BR>> <A =0A= href=3D"http://www.isotopicmaps.org/mailman/listinfo/tmcl-wg">http://www.= isotopicmaps.org/mailman/listinfo/tmcl-wg</A><BR>><BR>><BR>> =0A= End of tmcl-wg Digest<BR></FONT></P></DIV>=0A= =0A= </BODY>=0A= </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4C0B2.43287E69--