Re: encoding and content in YML files

Thanks, Zenaan.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Zenaan Harkness
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: jose isaias cabrera
Subject: Re: [Yaml-core] encoding and content in YML files

On 10/15/15, Oren Ben-Kiki <[email protected]> wrote:
> Doesn't work that way :-)
>
> "Code point" is a "platonic ideal". \u1234, UTF8, UTF16LE, UTF16BE,
> UTF32LE, UTF32BE, etc. are all different ways to encode it.
>
> Think of the number three. You can't put the number three into a file. You
> can put the byte 0b00000011 into a file, encoding it as a 1-byte integer
> (uint8_t). Or you can write the ascii string 't' 'h' 'r' 'e' 'e' into a
> file. You you could put the ascii character '3' into a file. Or any of a
> zillion other ways. All these are _encodings_. The number 3 itself is
> neither of them. It is a platonic ideal (the successor of the successor of
> the successor of the zero element, if you go by Peano's axioms - and the
> previous sentence is yet another "encoding").
>
> A "code point" is like that. You can only put an _encoding_ of a code 
> point
> into a file.

Very well described. Thank you Oren.

Here is a little project, with some Javadoc describing Java's Unicode
limitations, for those working in Java:
http://zenaan.github.io/zen/javadoc/zen/lang/string.html

I haven't touched this since May, and may well not for another year or
two by the looks of it. Still, the Javadoc may be useful for those
trying to wrap their heads around all things Unicode, and also, and in
particular, with respect to Java programming. It certainly did my head
in, a few times.

Here was my original post to stringtemplate-discussion mailing list,
"a coder's lament on the paucity of java.lang.String functionality":
https://groups.google.com/forum/?_escaped_fragment_=msg/stringtemplate-discussion/jJ_gZrF8SKg/ir_cuPRx1JsJ#!msg/stringtemplate-discussion/jJ_gZrF8SKg/ir_cuPRx1JsJ

I also posted that email to a semi-private google group, and we
engaged in a substantial discussion, which may be useful to those who
still are struggling after reading the Javadoc posted above - if so, I
am willing to repost the key exchanges here (with emails/names
redacted) - just ask.

Regards
Zenaan





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