Re: Revelation 3:20

Dawn Flood <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 7/6/2026 7:33 PM, Samuel Spade wrote:
> > "Andrew" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "Samuel Spade" wrote
> >>> "Andrew" wrote:
> >>>> "Samuel Spade" wrote
> >>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>> Samuel Spade wrote:
> >>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. Any
> >>>>>>>> one who believes in me will live, even after dying.
> >>>>>>>> Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will
> >>>>>>>> never die."
> >>>>>>>>                         John 11:25-26 NLT
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Never die?  Are you sure?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hebrews 9:27
> >>>>>>> And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after
> >>>>>>> this the judgment:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Never die, once die.  Never die, once die.  Which will it be?
> >>>>>>> Oh, wait:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Revelation 21:8
> >>>>>>> But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable,
> >>>>>>> and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and
> >>>>>>> idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the
> >>>>>>> lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the
> >>>>>>> second death.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Damn. Now we're up to the second death!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Never die, twice die.  Never die, twice die.  Tough choices!
> >>>>
> >>>> The default numbur is 'two'.  If you want to die only
> >>>> once, then you must come up in the first resurrection.
> >>>
> >>> Oh no you don't.  You're already on record as saying whoever
> >>> believes in Jesus *will never die*.
> >>
> >> That's what _Jesus_ said.
> >>
> >>> How do you do that?  As
> >>> you are quoted above, and I repeat:
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. Any
> >>>>>>>> one who believes in me will live, even after dying.
> >>>>>>>> Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will
> >>>>>>>> never die."   John 11:25-26 NLT
> >>>
> >>> I admit, Andrew, you're on the horns of a dilema.  You can
> >>> either accept John 11:26 and never die, or go by Heb 9:27 and
> >>> die once.  Or, of course, enjoy a rich life of sin and
> >>> abomination, and be blessed with double deaths, per Rev 21:8.
> >>
> >> Choose option # 1,
> >>
> >>> The choices are all in pretty direct conflict, aren't they?
> >>
> >> Absolutely! So make up your mind!
> >>
> >> Choose option # 1,
> >>
> >> "Blessed and holy are those who share in the first
> >>   resurrection. For them the second death holds no
> >>   power,"                 ~ Rev 20:6
> > 
> > So you're admitting Option 0, "never die", is off the table?
> > You know, the one you quoted at the beginning of the thread?
> > 
> > "Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will never die."
> > John 11:26
> > 
> > Do you want to see John and Paul duke it out?
> 
> You'll never win this "argument"; you realize that, don't you?

Well, so far I've got options on how many deaths to die, and a
license to sin freely in the meantime.

Losing has its upside.