Re: Man Drops Dead - After Getting Vaxxed

"Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Andrew wrote:
>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:   
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Attila" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Attila" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jojo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Attila" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Attila" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He --dropped dead-- right after getting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VAXXED!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely an atheist, since they are all 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strongly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pro vax.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting. Have you asked every one of them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If not how can you say "all" did anything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a newsgroup called alt.atheism,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one you constantly spam?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They were all heavily pro vax. There are only 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of them now -still left- who haven't dropped 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a general rule, they do not think for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They believe whatever the agenda is they are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "told".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They also believe the *molecules to man* 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deception.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An "unscientific fantasy" Yet they believe it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are "believers".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like not collecting stamps is a hobby.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Newsgroups are dying. If it wasn't for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal sites
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involving movies, TV, radio, and so forth it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> totally gone. ISP's put it on life support 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years ago when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they eliminated their news servers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that Usenet will be around forever! For 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starters, nearly every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other media site (e.g., Facebook, YouTube, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.) is moderated, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usenet is, to an extent, also moderated, but to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get kicked from Usenet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires something more offensive than just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressing ones ideas, even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if such is vitriolic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most people don't know it even exists, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activity is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dying. One very active group I know of is now 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dead, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this one would be except for about six users. It 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> younger users ever come here any more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there anyone under 50 out there? With respect 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong - remember all I have to go by are your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give little indication as to age.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL! I'm 58. Some younger people are here (Jojo?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, in case anyone missed it I am 87.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Soon to reach your first century. Congratulations!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Save it. That is very unlikely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only about 40% of my heart works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i think if you are this mentally active at that age, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i feel 100 will happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am about 10 years into a quad bypass so I doubt that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your life expediency would be influenced if you have any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional co-morbidity factors such as diabetes and if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a history of smoking, or alcohol, or illegal drug 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I smoked for over 40 years, went cold turkey in early 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and haven't touched one since. My mother, father, ex-wife,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and daughter smoked all their lives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know how old your parents were when they passed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had three to five drinks every night for over 20 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazing you're still with us. Did you have good doctors?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then noticed one day I hadn't had one in years. I have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.75 L bottle of Bicardi unopened I have had for about 15
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I live alone and will only last as long as I can do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please teach someone how to notify us when you pass so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, we would like to know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully you are not having too much pain here in your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> final days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're not a puke, you're acting like one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Dawn, always good to hear from you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully you will get all of those old taxes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid off..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you may recall, Jesus specifically told us to pay our 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxes. So that would be important
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for us to do that. Surely you would agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Matthew 22:21
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Mark 12:17
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Luke 20:25
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not believe that the literal words of Jesus are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorded in any of the Gospels, canonical or otherwise. Some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas of Jesus are certainly found in the Gospel of Mark 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a few in Luke & Matthew (those that they did not copy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Mark) and none in the Gospel of John.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, so, what Jesus said about taxes, if anything, is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably lost to time. I suspect that he said very little 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about that, as he and his earliest followers believed that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the World would end within the time frame of Jesus' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> preaching. Of course, it didn't, which explains Jesus' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeated wails of, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me?", which is the longest Aramaic phrase in the New 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Testament and is almost surely authentic. The author of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke, of course, did not like that, which is why he replaced 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it with something else "Father, into your hands I commend my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spirit", which attests to the authenticity of the Marcan 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> account and why Luke is all but a hagiography.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this what you told IRS when they asked..why you failed to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> pay?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The IRS has not called me. I did not pay my taxes because I 
>>>>>>>>>>> lacked the money to do so, but, I am on a payment plan now! 
>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure how long that will take!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hopefully you have a good job to help
>>>>>>>> get it taken care of as soon as possible
>>>>>>>> May peace be in your heart, whatever..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So sorry about that. Before I leave for today, I would like to 
>>>>>>>>>> give you a *big hug* right now over this internet forum.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Peace.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, Andrew; we're (just) friends.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I consider most all atheists as friend, because they
>>>>>>>> have always helped strengthen my faith.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrew,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you truly believe, then continue! 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I truly believe what is supported by 'rock solid science'. If 
>>>>>> atheists believe otherwise, then I respect their right
>>>>>> to do so. Nevertheless, I would kindly point out their
>>>>>> foolishness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As long as you respect the rights of others to disagree and even 
>>>>>>> not to believe at all, then there are no issues!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I note that atheists will generally believe whatever the 
>>>>>> consensus.says, even though what they believe may be
>>>>>> different than 'rock solid science'. Nevertheless I will certainly 
>>>>>> - respect their right- to believe their cherished
>>>>>> fantasies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Science is determined by scientists, 
>>>>
>>>> Empirical science is defined by a methodological commitment to 
>>>> evidence- based inquiry, where
>>>> theoretical constructs are grounded in and tested by observable, 
>>>> measurable and repeatable phenomena.
>>>>
>>>> As opposed to the many fantasized hypotheses that are concocted in 
>>>> the realm of the fantasies of our
>>>> atheist friends.
>>>>
>>>> True science is observable, testable, and repeatable.
>>>>
>>>> Now a group of scientists may come to a *consensus*
>>>> that will accord with their agreed upon preconceived prejudice.That 
>>>> doesn't mean it is *truth*. Nor does it
>>>> mean it is *science*.
>>>>> who, after all, are the ones who are writing the scientific papers & 
>>>>> textbooks.
>>>>> (Well, that's at least my opinion.)
>>>>
>>>> You believe whatever they say.
>>>> Dawn in a ~~> "believer"..
>>>>
>>>
>>> We've been through this before:
>>>
>>> https://ncse.ngo/kitzmiller-trial-transcripts
>> 
>> You are _a believer_ in the consensus of atheistic orthodoxy,
>> regardless of the foolishness of its constructs. Yet you STILL
>> believe.
>> The atheistic consensus thinks (fantasises) that life originated
>> by naturalistic only processes.And refuse to acknowledge any
>> evidence showing them otherwise.
>> 
>>> Now, you can go on & on (and, I am sure that you will) about how 
>>> unfair the verdict was and why the losers decided not to appeal and 
>>> other blah, blah, blah...
>>>
>>> Dawn
>> 
>> It is always better to side with truth. And empirical science would 
>> always be preferred rather than fantasy for those who
>> choose truth.
>> 
>> So what is your choice?
> 
> I am going to go with what former Judge John E. Jones III stated, 
> namely, that "intelligent design is not a legitimate scientific theory".
> 
> Dawn

It is not a "theory". It is an "origins model". 

And it is the~only one~that accords ->with 
the evidence.

Therefore to reject it as a legitimate origins
model, would be to reject all of the evidence
that tells us it is. 

One is free to do so.but then they identify
themselves to be a fool.



~ Andrew