Re: Man Drops Dead - After Getting Vaxxed

"Andrew" <[email protected]> Thu, 23 Jul 2026 04:19:18 -0700
Newsgroups alt.politics.radical-left,alt.abortion,alt.society.liberalism,alt.activism.death-penalty,alt.atheism
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"Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Andrew wrote:
>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:   
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Attila" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Attila" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jojo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Attila" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Attila" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He --dropped dead-- right after getting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VAXXED!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most likely an atheist, since they are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all strongly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pro vax.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting. Have you asked every one of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If not how can you say "all" did anything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a newsgroup called alt.atheism,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one you constantly spam?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They were all heavily pro vax. There are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of them now -still left- who haven't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropped dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a general rule, they do not think for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They believe whatever the agenda is they 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are "told".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They also believe the *molecules to man* 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deception.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An "unscientific fantasy" Yet they believe it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are "believers".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like not collecting stamps is a hobby.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Newsgroups are dying. If it wasn't for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal sites
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involving movies, TV, radio, and so forth it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> totally gone. ISP's put it on life support 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years ago when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they eliminated their news servers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that Usenet will be around forever! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For starters, nearly every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other media site (e.g., Facebook, YouTube, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.) is moderated, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usenet is, to an extent, also moderated, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get kicked from Usenet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires something more offensive than just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressing ones ideas, even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if such is vitriolic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most people don't know it even exists, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activity is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dying. One very active group I know of is now 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dead, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this one would be except for about six users. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> younger users ever come here any more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there anyone under 50 out there? With 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respect if I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong - remember all I have to go by are your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give little indication as to age.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL! I'm 58. Some younger people are here (Jojo?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, in case anyone missed it I am 87.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Soon to reach your first century. Congratulations!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Save it. That is very unlikely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only about 40% of my heart works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i think if you are this mentally active at that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> age, i feel 100 will happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am about 10 years into a quad bypass so I doubt 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your life expediency would be influenced if you have any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional co-morbidity factors such as diabetes and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a history of smoking, or alcohol, or illegal 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drug use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I smoked for over 40 years, went cold turkey in early 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and haven't touched one since. My mother, father, ex- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wife,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and daughter smoked all their lives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know how old your parents were when they passed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had three to five drinks every night for over 20 years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazing you're still with us. Did you have good doctors?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then noticed one day I hadn't had one in years. I have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.75 L bottle of Bicardi unopened I have had for about 15
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I live alone and will only last as long as I can do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please teach someone how to notify us when you pass so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, we would like to know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully you are not having too much pain here in your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> final days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're not a puke, you're acting like one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Dawn, always good to hear from you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully you will get all of those old taxes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid off..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you may recall, Jesus specifically told us to pay our 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxes. So that would be important
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for us to do that. Surely you would agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Matthew 22:21
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Mark 12:17
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Luke 20:25
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not believe that the literal words of Jesus are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorded in any of the Gospels, canonical or otherwise. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some ideas of Jesus are certainly found in the Gospel of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark with a few in Luke & Matthew (those that they did not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy from Mark) and none in the Gospel of John.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, so, what Jesus said about taxes, if anything, is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably lost to time. I suspect that he said very little 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about that, as he and his earliest followers believed that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the World would end within the time frame of Jesus' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preaching. Of course, it didn't, which explains Jesus' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeated wails of, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me?", which is the longest Aramaic phrase in the New 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Testament and is almost surely authentic. The author of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke, of course, did not like that, which is why he 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replaced it with something else "Father, into your hands I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commend my spirit", which attests to the authenticity of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Marcan account and why Luke is all but a hagiography.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this what you told IRS when they asked..why you failed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to pay?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The IRS has not called me. I did not pay my taxes because I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacked the money to do so, but, I am on a payment plan now! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure how long that will take!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully you have a good job to help
>>>>>>>>>> get it taken care of as soon as possible
>>>>>>>>>> May peace be in your heart, whatever..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So sorry about that. Before I leave for today, I would like 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to give you a *big hug* right now over this internet forum.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peace.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, Andrew; we're (just) friends.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I consider most all atheists as friend, because they
>>>>>>>>>> have always helped strengthen my faith.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you truly believe, then continue! 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I truly believe what is supported by 'rock solid science'. If 
>>>>>>>> atheists believe otherwise, then I respect their right
>>>>>>>> to do so. Nevertheless, I would kindly point out their
>>>>>>>> foolishness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As long as you respect the rights of others to disagree and even 
>>>>>>>>> not to believe at all, then there are no issues!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I note that atheists will generally believe whatever the 
>>>>>>>> consensus.says, even though what they believe may be
>>>>>>>> different than 'rock solid science'. Nevertheless I will 
>>>>>>>> certainly - respect their right- to believe their cherished
>>>>>>>> fantasies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Science is determined by scientists, 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Empirical science is defined by a methodological commitment to 
>>>>>> evidence- based inquiry, where
>>>>>> theoretical constructs are grounded in and tested by observable, 
>>>>>> measurable and repeatable phenomena.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As opposed to the many fantasized hypotheses that are concocted in 
>>>>>> the realm of the fantasies of our
>>>>>> atheist friends.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> True science is observable, testable, and repeatable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now a group of scientists may come to a *consensus*
>>>>>> that will accord with their agreed upon preconceived 
>>>>>> prejudice.That doesn't mean it is *truth*. Nor does it
>>>>>> mean it is *science*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> who, after all, are the ones who are writing the s
>>>>>>> cientific papers & textbooks.(Well, that's at least 
>>>>>>> my opinion.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You believe whatever they say.
>>>>>> Dawn in a ~~> "believer"..
>>>>>
>>>>> We've been through this before:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://ncse.ngo/kitzmiller-trial-transcripts
>>>>
>>>> You are _a believer_ in the consensus of atheistic orthodoxy,
>>>> regardless of the foolishness of its constructs. Yet you STILL
>>>> believe. The atheistic consensus thinks (fantasises) that life 
>>>> originated by naturalistic only processes.
>>>>
>>>> And refuse to acknowledge any evidence showing them otherwise.
>>>>
>>>>> Now, you can go on & on (and, I am sure that you will) about how 
>>>>> unfair the verdict was and why the losers decided not to appeal and 
>>>>> other blah, blah, blah...
>>>>>
>>>>> Dawn
>>>>
>>>> It is always better to side with truth. And empirical science would 
>>>> always be preferred rather than fantasy for those who choose truth.
>>>>
>>>> So what is your choice?
>>>
>>> I am going to go with what former Judge John E. Jones III stated, 
>>> namely, that "intelligent design is not a legitimate scientific theory".
>>>
>>> Dawn
>> 
>> It is not a "theory". It is an "origins model".
>> And it is the~only one~that accords ->with
>>  the evidence.
>> 
>> Therefore to reject it as a legitimate origins
>> model, would be to reject all of the evidence
>> that tells us it is. One is free to do so.but 
>> then they identify themselves to be a fool.
> 
> And, so, you agree with Judge Jones' decision??

Dawn, lawyers and judges are not scientists.
You should have known that. 

And if you want the truth, you will not go 
against what empirical science has already
revealed to us.

Peace to you, Dawn.


~ Andrew