Re: Poem Recommendation

> msifg wrote:
> "Dale Houstman" <dmh7> wrote in message
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>> msifg wrote:
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>> "FarStar" <ecowboy> wrote in message
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>> He's got to be the creepiest singer I've heard, maybe moreso the leonard
>> cohen.  Don't you think the doors are creepy, like charlie manson
>> creepy, I do
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jim was a natural prankster.
>> He was a rock&roll gangster.
>> He better be creepy.
>> Otherwise, he's not being honest.
>> 
>> He certainly could be embarrassing: I've seen live footage of him, and
>> he's not so much "creepy" as "drunk" - he might be considered "creepy" in
>> the way lonely Uncle Ginsock was creepy at the family reunions, but that's
>> about as far as that goes.
>> 
> 
> 
> "embarrassing" applies to jim in many ways.
> he obviously had a garden variety of personality
> defects coupled with a soaring IQ of 140.
> that combination, mixed with drugs and booze
> made him, sort of, obnoxious.  his behavior
> on more than one occasion, got him in all kinds
> of trouble with the law. (lewdness, public drunkenness,
> public disruption, inciting riots, vandalism,
> and other pranks were his forte.)
> 
> "creepy" would be from the perspective of his
> painfully normal parents and people like them.
> (nixon's silent majority.)
> jim's long hair, wild stare and "obnoxious" behavior
> contributed to the disowning of his parents.
> (i'm sure those calls to home went quite well.)
> his dad was an admiral in the navy.
> can you imagine the tension btwn those two?
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> I like Henry Rollins for today's
>> "Jim" like personality.
>> 
>> They do have some similarities: Henry is also a pretentious who has pipe
>> dreams about being a writer, but is really just a dumb block of wood with
>> some paper and a pencil.
>> 
> 
> 
> maybe so.  but, henry's still young.
> and, since he puts so much work into it,
> he could still produce something brilliant.
> of course, he ain't no morrisson.
> however, very few in the pop spotlight
> can claim that title, if any.
> 
> 
>> 
>> However, Jim crept through
>> the cracks of the vestal industry.
>> 
>> They don't allow any "crazies" through the
>> doors anymore.  Too bad.  That's where
>> true art lies.
>> 
>> Oh, there's still some loonies lurking about out there: the fact is, the
>> vast majority of pop musicians in ANY era are essentially "normal" and
>> merely professional rather than "crazy".
>> 
> 
> 
> i disagree with ANY era.
> the sixties came with more "open cracks."
> we can split hairs when you say "the vast majority."
> however, the amount of mediocre crap out there now
> makes me believe your point applies more to today's
> pop musicians.
> please watch the first part of this real fast.
> it explains my opinion better than i can.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UAWqwLjN70
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> (Cobain did sneak through.  Maybe
>> there's hope yet.  There might still
>> be a "crack" of hope.)
>> 
>> Cobain's "crazy" might have been ameliorated with just a spoonful of
>> stability. Crazy is fine, but suicidal really ruins the career.
>> 
> 
> 
> haha-
> the "spoonful" of stability you speak of exposes a horrible but accurate
> pun.
> he admitted on more than one occasion that heroin brought him
> some stability.  the fact is, he was a genuine nutcase.  the man
> had acute bipolar disorder.  he also had acute irritable bowl
> syndrome.  he also had severe scoliosis.  top all of that off with
> a $400 a day heroin addiction which he definitely had the funds to
> supply.  kurt was a walking train wreck.  i'm surprised he made it
> as long as he did.
> 

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Well put, "msifg."


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